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Is discord not enshitty?
I open it and it updates 6 times, then I get a full page ad for nitro. Then all the settings push nitro. And all the “servers” push nitro.
It's the best at what it does, but had been getting shitty in the way you described. However, it's free and they have to support it somehow. I'll put up with the nitro pushing and understand that's my cost of doing business. If they go public, I'll probably actively start looking for an alternative, because that always kills a product and it will for sure mean "AI" will be forced into it.
These arguments might just give me an aneurysm.
This has let so many horrible free to play games off the hook while they literally make billions in profits and have astounding profit margins.
Discord makes money.
In a non hyper greed infested world, they could simply coast at the level of wealth they are at now, still making free money for their investors, paying their workers, and improving the service, without making peoples lives shittier.
There is no reason to justify this shit.
I agree, this is just an inexcusable reasoning that is essentially flawed. In all essence, the ads, the intrusive popups, the 1000 cookies which you have to accept and giving money to those poor billionaires is implied to be as the right thing to do - which is not.
Justifications like this is why we still have shit software lying about the web and nothing is done about it. The companies dont care about the people, and they don't care about op. Being a suckup for a corpo will get you nowhere - in fact saying that they're the best, is just a false narrative.
In the end that statement is essentially an oxymoron. Op is trying to justify the oppressive strategies of corpoware, while not realising that they already have info about op's stepmother's maiden name.
Locking data away from search engines so that unless you’re in that little fiefdom you don’t get the information.
Probably that too, but specifically the ability to spin up a private space to communicate with people for things like video games. Anyone that's using it as their means of customer service is an idiot.
Apparently I struck a chord with my post, so I'm curious what is better than discord, and free that made my statement controversial?
Also, I don't see locking data from search engines as a bad thing. The fediverse isn't search engine searchable either and Google, bing, etc, don't natively have the right to index private data.
Matrix?
The fediverse not being searchable is one of the biggest flaws with it, and make it similarly ephemeral to Discord, except its actually worse because the sizes of communities are just in that goldilocks area of awfulness where there are echo chambers, and people are rude and toxic. Whatsmore, availability due to the small size is relatively mediocre.
IRC for chat and mumble for voice.
both of those are not remotely as feature rich or user-friendly as discord.
Maybe people are spoiled? How the shit did we run communities and shit in the past? Bring back forums
Youre totally right. Spoiled brats deserve the enshittification they get because they are lazy and refuse to learn anything. And corporations LOVE that.
Maybe we should remove the internet and all communicate through mail instead. Be for real people aren't going to switch to a worse solution for no reason
Why are we on Lemmy then?
Because I like using it better than the alternatives. That is not the case for discord vs whatever else.
Valid, I'm here because fuck Reddit. I made a choice to use a more transparent and open service that has less features and less content because of that.
Sometimes we gotta think about our wants and think are they really a need? Or can we get by with less till the alternatives can get better. Imagine all the discord premium money that could of paid foss devs to make something better.
It's not really that simple. I don't need to convince my entire friend group to switch to Lemmy in order to get some use out of it. Best I can do is convince people to use modded discord clients like vencord and aliucord for most nitro features instead of paying for it.
I agree, but there has to be a certain bar of usability for it to be a viable replacement, since you need to convince other people to use it as well. Matrix is the closest one for me, but it's not quite there yet.
It is. Which is why I‘m baffled they didn’t go public already.