Sadly he's saying something far more sinister. He's basically saying that it doesn't matter if you've lived somewhere for 500 years, someone else can come and say "This is mine now, fuck off". Basically he's stating that Russia has claim to whatever land they've conquered from Ukraine or that Israel has claim to all the lands they're taking from Palestine.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 25 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Its not that deep.

He's just saying he can take things he wants if no one will stop him, and he's trying to rationalise that.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, he's absolutely making the statement only from the perspective of his own interests. But just because he himself doesn't think beyond his own interest it doesn't mean it's not setting (if actually followed through) a precedent where taking land by force is acceptable.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You could say that about everything that Trump does.

He has normalised the making of unilateral decisions. He has normalised vindictive policies. He has normalised armed forces in cities.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Let's say you and me are neighbors. If I don't listen to my wife, kids, extended family and set up stupid rules in my house, does that affect you? No. If I set up a stupid rule where guests can't flush the toilet does that affect you? Not really unless you come and visit. If I decide to walk around in my house with a loaded gun, does that affect you? No.

But if I come to you house, punch you in the face and tell you "Your wife now runs the house and I will be checking that she is the one running the house" does that affect you? Absolutely. That's a simplified version of what happened in Venezuela. If kick your door in, shove a gun in your face and tell you "This house is now mine. Either deal with it or fuck off" does that affect you? Absolutely. That's a simplified version of what Trump would in Greenland.

What you've described are domestic issues that don't violate the sovereignty of another country. What I've described as a bad precedent is an international issue where there actions directly violate the sovereignty of another country. They're two different things.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not really.

Plenty of other countries adopting Trump's populist policies.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago

And it's their prerogative if they choose to do so. That's not the same as Trump pushing his policies onto other countries.

And it's not other countries. It's right-wing parties who are using Trump for inspiration, it doesn't automatically mean those parties are in power. In a parliamentary system, if they have any power then in most cases they're in a coalition with center-right parties who will act as a stop-gap to their most extremist ideas. Even if they wanted to do like Trump does they have a much harder time doing that.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago

Bro you think diaper Donnie is having this level of rhetoric?

Stop scaring yourself.