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Messaging apps - XMPP vs Matrix vs ??? (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by Eldaroth@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Hey guys, I recently started to play with the thought to deploy a Snikket (XMPP) server on my VPS to play around with it a bit. I already had a Matrix (Continuwuity) server running on an older VPS with Docker at one point. But besides me using some bridges (WhatsApp, Signal etc.) it didn't see a lot of use. Originally I had set it up with the goal to replace Discord, but so far couldn't get my small group of gamer friends to switch to something else.

What are your experiences with XMPP (doesn't have to be Snikket) or Matrix? Would you recommend one over the other maintenance and/or usability wise?

Just curious what the community's current sentiment is in regards to private self hosted messaging services 😊

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[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hosted Matrix for several years. It mostly works fine, apps look consistent, bridges are nice, but is a pain in the ass in some aspects. Onboarding sucks. Data needs constant cleanup (or gigabytes of storage, even for a dozen users). Sometimes notifications are delayed hours. Sometimes images don't load.

New Element Server Suite is more corporate-oriented, requires Kubernetes (!) to run, includes defacto mandatory services. Element X has no feature parity with Element Classic, especially calls.

I ran Snikket many years ago for a few months. But now they have smooth invites/onboarding, admin panel, and always had reliable notifications. Even bridges through Slidge. I plan to switch back to Snikket soon.

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[–] Eldaroth@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Nice blog post you wrote there, I like how you go into some details about the problems you faced hosting Matrix.

[–] scott@lem.free.as 3 points 5 months ago

Notifications are instant for me, using a self-hosted Unified Push server too.