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So, lets say we get to August or some summer month, and 4,000,000 people are protesting right out front the white house.

Do they send in the tanks? Do they kill 1,000,000 people? Would republican civilians see empathy for the dead americans who were democrats? Or would it unite the nation like 9/11 did, except this time against the government?

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[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

First of all, I don't think the Anerican military would follow that order. Shooting supposed drug smugglers illegally and shooting your neighbors illegally are two different kettle of fish for us humans who want to belong to sonething.

They would have to turn off the internet including satellites and then destroy all camera capable gadgets, maybe with an EMP. I think this is too much hassle. There won't be a Tiananmen Sq in the US. The Chinese could control the narrative internally and didn't give af about the rest of the world - in 1989. As we see in Iran today, the world is but a village and footage travels fast. The risk is too high.

But keep looking at ICE or "proud" militias. I would not be surprised to hear about these bastards sniping at protest leaders or even rando participants to discourage more protests. Look for fat guys on roofs.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You mean like they ‘didn’t’ at Kent State?

Don’t kid yourself; they absolutely will. Going by our history, though, if they can they’ll do it to a black neighborhood first.

You are more supporting my gut feeling here by invoking Kent State. A handful of people died there; hundreds+ died in Beijing.

A situation like Kent State is very possible but they will have learned the lesson and it won't be NG or other armed forces opening fire. It'll be the obese SA or a right-wing militia that opens fire from a sniper's nest.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It won't be their neighbors though it'll be troops shipped in from the other side of the country just like in China.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Neighbors, countrymen - choose your own metaphor.

I'm no expert on the people's army. I don't think they had any way to refuse an illegal order. The US armed forces do have this. I think there are enough people in the US military that would refuse to shoot on protestors. Supposed drug smugglers are the out group and scruples are sadly low enough not to refuse that illegal order. Sending in the tanks in Minneapolis or Boston to shoot on their in group would be crossing the line. Not a good, sterdy, moral line but a line nonetheless.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think they had any way to refuse an illegal order.

They could literally just not carry out the order, that's why the CCP brought in out of town troops. I don't know the structure of ICE but it seems they are doing the same, troops from Texas and Arizona are more likely to shoot Minisottans than Minisottan troops, and I suspect they would do the same if they deployed the military.

Let's hope then that I'm right and even out of towners of the armed forces will not want to shoot.