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What appeals to you about that text?
How authority is defined and how Engels actually logically provides an answer to the question whether organization without authority is possible
A short 'logical' essay can give any answer in an abstract sense, but that doesn't discount empirical examples.
Always seemed to me like Engels begs the question, takes "anarchy = chaos" as a starting assumption.
Empirical examples... that you have not provided?
It's trivially easy to think of examples of "organisation without authority" in nature, in history, in software.
Provide a trivially easy example that you can think of (in the concrete sense) and let's examine it together
You provide one, you have a brain, you don't need me to spoonfeed you.
"Prove my point for me"
I provided you not only one, but two (cotton spinning wheel and railway example), assuming you're familiar with Engels text.
I see you're either scared to be challenged ideologically or it's not as trivially easy as you make it seem to be.
No, those aren't examples of "organisation without authority"; they're the opposite.
I only see two possibilities –
Brother in Christ if this is your reading comprehension I'm not sure how to help you. I'm arguing with Engels here: Meaning organization without authority isn't possible. How the fuck do you expect me to provide an example of organization without authority if it's not something I believe in dipshit?
Ok bye
"How the fuck do you expect me to use my brain when my beliefs are in the way?!?"
I expected exactly this tbh. You even admit that it's your "beliefs" that blind you to the examples we see all around us. No point talking to a hostile deadminded Believer.
I don't have any ownership of the point, it's not mine, it's common-sense.
If it's common sense and trivially easy to understand why can't you just explain it to us?
Youse have already answered that: because Beliefs stop you from seeing.
Such as?