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I don't think this is gonna sound "civil", because I genuinely think we are so completely fucked in the US that if we want to avoid either a Somalia-style civil war (which is really bad BTW) or a dictator in power … we need to do some pretty drastic stuff. And … even this is kinda dangerous IMO, but also IMO "safe" was something that went byebye in the 2024 election.
We must primary worthless Democrats like Schumer anywhere we can. "Ohhhhhkaayyyy…" FUCKING NO DAMMIT, NO MORE! This surrender bullshit has to stop and that means he's gotta be removed from "leader" at the least. Then we need to get every Democrat we can into office, with strong leadership in the Senate and Stronger in the House. We must flip the Senate.
Next, Vance needs to be impeached. Yes Vance. Congress doesn't actually need "cause" but claiming an army of fucking stormtroopers have "absolute immunity" to murder Americans is cause enough. He's gotta go. And Congress must refuse to appoint his replacement. Because when you then impeach Trump over … pick a crime, really? That makes the Speaker our president. You see why I said this is dangerous, because one party rule always is corrupt. If we come out of this with a democracy where elections matter it'll be a miracle.
The new president can begin firing Trump's cabal of feckless, corrupt incompetents, and sith lord Stephen Miller too. At that point we need a special counsel to start investigatin' and referring people for prosecutions as the evidence is collected. And the prosecutions need to happen. I don't think people accept less than that. The evidence has to come out, and people need to be accountable. That is gonna include some in Congress. (Although frankly every Republican in Congress had access to classified info that proved a lot of Trump's crimes from the start, so IMO they're all co-conspirators. But I doubt even firebrand Democrats have the guts to charge them all.)
This is a monumental task and I have no idea how it gets accomplished.
None of your plan is realistic because no one in a position of power to do anything agrees with you.
If you're an American voter, you are. That's the thing about sea changes in politics. They come from people who have very little power. And we do have very little power. It happens when there's a damned lot of us, and not until then. The last time was when they kicked out the railroad barons and created anti-monopoly laws that are still on the books, mostly unused since the 70s. The time before that was pre-civil war. And before that was the revolutionary war itself.
These things don't always have to be done via war, but they do have to be done by an overwhelming majority of people. Fatalism doesn't help. Organizing does.
If you're agreeing with ameancow's suggestion that the solution is to primary non-progressive democrats, that's not how we seize our power as the working class imo. The Democrats rigged their primaries against Bernie Sanders then had a court declare they were legally within their right to do so.
You are trying to play democracy with a fundamentally undemocratic institution, according to their own legal claims. And even if you win, they're excellent at corrupting people - just look at AOC Pelosi voting to fund the Zionazi entity.
On the other hand, you're totally right that we have the real power in this country as the working class. Electoral politics - especially on the federal level - just aren't how we're going to effectively exercise that power. I vote anyway, it's not a difficult thing to do, so why not? But I'm not under the illusion that it will save us. We have to hit them in the only place they care about: their wallets, bank accounts, stock portfolios, and GDP.