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None of the companies pulling this shit are offering a good enough product to be worth it.
Minecraft, though....
And no, VoxelLibre is not a good replacement. They need to fix their UI first so it doesn't look like a 2004 app
Minecraft Java is (now) a source available (I dont know if thats the right term, but new java edition versions are now completely deobfuscated.) game where anyone can either play offline or spin up their own server to play multiplayer, even with no connection to mojang's servers. I dont think its a big concern. There's already a mod for Java to just remove the age verification.
Also, there isnt really an alternative for a game. There are only other similiar in genre games.
I just bought keys for my tiny kids and hosted a world for us. It was no problem except for the Microsoft part I Hated that part but once set up now it's no problem
I've had some difficulty with the parental controls preventing my kid from joining my server on the same network. Microsoft's parental controls are so overly granular yet incredibly unclear in the specifics, there isn't feature parity between the mobile app and the web interface forcing one to download their shitty app to toggle certain settings, and it seems like even their documentation authors and support are unclear on how to set it up exactly
Yeah, its on the web, but very insanely badly ux. Xbox something something.. but we are playing five people on the same ip with no issue
Oh yeah I'm sure if I struggled through I'd eventually find the value to toggle, it's just a royal pain and I don't wanna!
Vintage Story, soon Hytale bit for bit. Also there are just mods for Minecraft to circumvent chat blocks
U can pirate Minecraft in this case just easy I think it justifies
Yeah, but you can't play on whitelisted servers if you pirate Minecraft
Yeah true but if u wanna play with friends on own server it not problem
People love sharing porn in discord tho. That’s why this is happening.
No. That's the excuse for why it's happening.
Ok, let’s say it is. They just want to invade our privacy. Now set that aside.
On a separate topic: What’s an alternative solution for the “there’s porn on the playground” problem that discord has? They are participants in it, they are facilitators. They shouldn’t be immune. Giving platforms a pass on things like this is pernicious. Giving platforms a pass is why Elon Musk thinks he can get away with CSAM generators.
I'm sorry are we putting aside biometric infomation being aggregated across multiple platforms and assigned to browsing habits so that governments know exactly where you're browsing at any single moment?
Are we just putting that aside?????
If discord can't handle it don't blame me. I mean what even is this point???
I’m not putting it aside to dismiss the idea that it’s bad. I was doing so just for the sake of conversation. You’re really overreacting to conversation.
This age verification stuff is an invasion of privacy, and we should have a better answer to the claims that it is the only way to put in protection on the platform side. “Parents” is not the answer to the platform’s responsibility here as a facilitator who profits from facilitating.
Age verification systems are invasive and harm privacy AND it’s weird that we think platforms should be all ages with no serious/effective barriers. It’s weird that we just act like there is no solution, and bemoan parents.
I was quite clear about switching the topic focus.
the better solution is to ban porn from the platform. that's it. there are some people who won't like it, but they will find another porn platform.
The issue isn't age verification, but rather how its handled. It SHOULD be handled by discord sending a request to my local government asking them "is this person an adult", leading me to confirming who I am to them (and them only). None of my personal info should be handled by discord, and it should frankly be illegal for them to demand it like this.
Any kind of required age verification has significant privacy and security implications. Honestly I think the best approach is the pinky promise we've generally had until now, where by default the platform will not display explicit content until the user actively consents and asserts that they are of legal age.
Why exactly do we need to be verifying age? Any kind of legal/government documents and agreements are already covered by purjory laws, physical deliveries and purchases are already handled by photo ID checks, and porn is of course harmful to teens/preteens but they've always been finding ways to access porn even before the home computer era (and honestly this would be better handled through education by schools and parents than forceful legislation)
It should probably be a thing, for things that are age restricted by law (and are harmful, not whatever the UK is doing with VPNs).
Saying "they'll find it anyway" is a bad excuse for "we should make it easy for them". The horniness and curiosity of a teen is unstoppable, but it's better for everyone if they have limited access.
Is preventing teens' access to pornography worth sacrificing the ability for every adult to have privacy online?
This is a society level value judgement that has to be made, I'm not necessarily looking for hard answers
In the proposed solution, the government would ideally not get to know who asked if you're an adult as well. I think that'd be the best of both worlds.
I don’t disagree. We need better tools for this.
The problem is making sure these tools are not used as tools of the state for tracking.
Are platforms responsible for the content their users post? No. Rules for unusual situations (CSAM, terrorism, copyright, etc) have been established for probably decades by this point.
An online chat/message board is not comparable to an image generator because the company is not creating potentially harmful content.
I think it has become increasingly clear that letting platforms off the hook has been really bad for society across the world across many dimensions. We need something in the middle of zero responsibility and full responsibility.
Yet Pirate bay is..?
These are actually separate issues. TPB isn't legally responsible for theft if someone leaks an unreleased song. But, the publishing company can sue them for damages related to lost income based on TPB's distribution of content.
Wasn't the argument supposed to be that because they only link to torrents but don't host the content that the torrents link to themselves they're not a disributor just a link aggregator?
But we have established, for centuries, that platform owners are not liable for what their users publish..?
Boycott the platform. No one's gonna rescue the end user anymore. There's no more oversight. Remove yourself from the ecosystem and encourage healthier alternatives.
Parents should try parenting for once instead of relying on the government to (use them as a thinly veiled excuse to) implement draconian monitoring on their populace.
Why do that when government and corporations can do it for them? It's going to be their kids / property anyway.
Right, it’s weird that parents let kids play on platforms that have porn on them. Something needs to be done, maybe we should go after the parents instead.
Or is the answer just saying parents should do something and then do nothing? We need a clever solution that does not involve sharing proof of identity… any ideas? Banning adult content completely would work too.
Google.com
Never let kids access this site, littered with porn access
Why doesn't twitter have to do this?
Because Elon Musk loves mixing kids and porn.
Edit: it’s so fucking stupid and contradictory that this comment has upvotes and my other comments in this thread don’t.
They all say the same thing. Mixing kids and porn is weird. Discord mixes kids and porn too. Elon just enjoys it.
And he's politically connected enough to get away with it. Discord isn't
He likes his Twitter users how he likes his scotch.
Russian, computerized, and fake?
12 years old and mixed up with coke.