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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The state is a result of class struggle, so to end states once and for all you need to achieve classless society, eliminating the basis of the state. That means collectivizing all production and distribution globally, into one system. Once this is done, there are no classes in contention, and as such the oppressive elements of society used to keep the proletariat on top will gradually disappear and "wither," being reduced in function and scope until only what's necessary remains, like administration.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It sounds like anarchist and communists should be allies.

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 week ago

Only due to collective interests and a shallow understanding of each. When you really get down to it, Marxism and anarchism are opposites.

  • Historical materialism vs rejection of this (idealism)

  • Society is built upon what came before vs society is built anew

  • Centralization vs decentralization

  • Organization at a large scale (collective ownership of the means of production organized across the whole economy) vs organization at a small scale (isolated, individual, and direct ownership of the means of production with collective collaboration)

Sure, both agree that they want a stateless society, but communists and anarchists don't even agree on what the state is, meaning that while they can be strategic allies, their ultimate goals and approaches are completely different and opposed.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

For the most part, yes there are even anarcho-communists. But at the same there is a big difference in the non-authoritarian view of the anarchists and some communists.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

From what I have read, it seems communism is the journey and anarchism is basically the destination with a few institutions intact. I'd rather take that road and whatevwr fights that may bring than what I currently see as our future.

Edit: because I don't believe the public on average, especially in the west, is ready for any kind of anarchism. They couldn't handle it. It would be ruined by the same forces currently destroying the world order. We need to join with the communists to defeat it. Whatever consequences come of that are better tha nation state fiefdoms run by billionaire psycopaths and sycophants.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah that is one way of seeing it, but I am from an ex socialist county and the idea of communism can also be easily abused and co-opted.

As long as there are power structures be it the market or the state. The people cannot be free.

And I also believe you cannot free other people they must free themselves. If you forcefully free someone you are just imposing new rules.