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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just a heads up for anyone who may use this in an argument. I just tested on several models and the generated response accounted for the logical fallacy. Unfortunately it isn't real.

( Funny non-the less )

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Tested on GPT-5 mini and it's real tho?

Edit: Gemini gives different results

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Man, I really hate how much they waffle. The only valid response is "You have to drive, because you need your car at the car wash in order to wash it".

I don't need an explanation what kind of problem it is, nor a breakdown of the options. I don't need a bulletpoint list of arguments. I don't need pros and cons. And I definitely don't need a verdict.

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago

I'll also accept sarcasm.

"Unless you've successfully trained your car to follow you like a loyal golden retriever, you're probably going to have to drive."

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeaaah they waffle a lot, i hate that

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

You can actually fix this in the settings there's an option for permanent prompt tunings and you can add things like "focus on concise answers" or my favorite " i don't need to be glazed , I don't need to be told that it's an insightful question or reaches the heart of the matter. Just focus on answering the question"

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It's the illusion of reason

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

I've found some success in ussing system prompts or similar to ignore explaining things lol

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago

They are trained to yap because it gives them a higher likelihood of giving the correct answer. If they don't go on and on in user presented text, it at least does it in hidden text.

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Those gemini responses are legitimately hilarious.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, Gemini is... interesting. It said it's a "one-way route" for the human.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, he yapped a lot for no reason but at least it make you giggle a little

[–] VincentComfy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Gemini’s responses were surprisingly humorous

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Tried it in GPT 5.2 (although in German) and it also says, that walking is better.

It also made a completely illogical sentence at the third point with two words in lowercase that should be uppercase.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Bold of Gemini to imply any sort of liability for what it says. Google's lawyers really don't want that to be the case.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I used paid models which will be the only ones the LLM bros will care about. Even they kinda know not to glaze the free models. So not surprising

( I have to have the paid models for work, my lead developer is a LLM nut )

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Gemini got jokes, but why does it think walking emits zero carbons? Humans are carbon emitters, more so with exercise. Hell, I farted while giggling at its humor.

Much less carbon than the car? Yep. Zero? Nope

[–] Mniot@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago

It's basically impossible to tell with these between the example being totally fabricated, true but only happens some small percentage of time, true and happens most of the time but you got lucky, and true and reliable but now the company has patched this specific case because it blew up online.