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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (10 children)

The US and Israel bombed an elementary school and killed 40 Iranian girls are you proud of yourself?

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Proud? Please explain because it seems you're not replying to me.

I live in Estonia, that's in North-Eastern Europe unless you know. We aren't bombing Iran and couldn't even if we wanted badly.

But our ally (Ukraine) is being bombed with weapons purchased from Iran and subsequent designs improved upon Iranian ones. I am also keenly aware that the Iranian regime has killed well over 10 000 of their own people to supress protests, and maybe as much as 30 000 (though I'm not convinced it's that high, it just seems the realistic top end of the estimates). That's a lot.

I am also aware that Donald Trump does not do humanitarian interventions, so the "current thing" is not a humanitarian intevention. It's a boring ordinary war with one ruler (a wannabe tyrant named Donald Trump) going at another ruler (an actual tyrant named Ali Khamenei) who failed to submit to his demands. There seems to be another ruler involved, a wanted war criminal called Benjamin Netanyahu seems to be cooperating with Trump. This makes it embarrassing to look at, emphasizing that the current thing has nothing to do with international law.

A humanitarian intervention arguably could have occurred on the night when the IRGC and Basij started shooting masses of people. It did not occur.

In the best case, the "current thing" could have some side benefits to the Iranian people, but those are unlikely to become realized and could be dwarved by unpredictable harms caused.

As a result of the situation explained above, I find it impossible to say any words of support to anyone involved, only criticize them all. The word "proud" implies support. So you are extremely wrong to think I'm proud about anything happening there currently, and I don't think others should be either.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Iran sells weapons to Russia because the West sanctioned Iran for opposing genocide.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

Sanctions on Iran pre-date the genocide in Gaza by a long time.

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