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Interesting to hear that two of the three think of the foreign policy of China as dog shit and the other one (yugopnik, I think) seemingly disagreeing.
Pretty good episode imo and I am excited to hear more
Naah, the Chinese foreign policy has been shit since the 60s. This is even well-know among the tankiest of tankie circles.
Well, you are currently in a circle that largely disagrees I think.
From what I gather of the most principled ML's here the take is usually that their foreign policy is unsatisfying, but calculated, safe and effective.
China made some mistakes in the context of the Sino-Soviet split, in particular their intervention on the wrong side of the Cambodia-Vietnam conflict, and a few other things, but the root causes of the split were the much worse mistakes made by the Soviet Union in their behavior toward China (stemming from the CPSU's historical-nihilist revisionism). Since the dissolution of the USSR i think China has had a fairly pragmatic foreign policy and they did the best they could under the circumstances they have been facing.