Ooh fair enough! Seeing the quality of the work over at Prolewiki, I completely understand then
I think it is great we have y’all here on the grad! It’s also cool that it serves as an alternative/complement to chapotraphouse in our sister instance Hexbear (love you all too my dope ass shaped queer comrades!! 🫶)
Honestly I think the automated comments are very useful...
Completely agreed! And from what I have seen so far, I think it would be possible to have an automated reply here on Lemmy too (that is my personal suspicion at least 😅). But I wanted to have such a post first to gauge the community's opinions before investing time and resources into an automated reply. Especially because, considering one of the skills of the users of r/TheDeprogram was to dunk on the occasional libs who decided to be toxic, I would very much like to give them the same type of tools to be effective dunkers on Lemmy as well lol
Seeing the impressive work of the editors, I'm sure it will get there for sure :) but what type of jankiness? Maybe the old wiki style doesn't fully match the tone that was already present in the page itself?
I'm removing this post simply because it's a duplicate. Thank you again for your effort in writing this!
Excellent guide! Thank you for sharing this 
They have been incorporated to the existing entries to avoid having multiple articles covering the same topic :)
That's incredibly accurate. On a personal note, it also makes my own browsing experience more pleasant when I can interact with well intentioned users who are simply chatting about theory and sharing memes.
I like having a safe, moderated communist space
Thank you for the clear answer!
What you could do is spin up companion communities on Lemmy.ml for The Deprogram as a way to reach a broader audience, and then implement a bot that does what Automod did on Reddit, but for the Lemmy.ml deprogram community
Yes, I was contemplating this too.
I actually already created a community for the Deprogram on Lemmy.ml but haven't done anything with it yet because I wanted to make this post first to have feedback from the users now that we've had some time to settle in Lemmygrad after the ban
Though you could also take that information and use it to improve Prolewiki
Shortly after the Reddit ban, I was reorganizing the resources I had still available and I asked the Lemmygrad admins for their opinions on how best to proceed for incorporating those resources into Prolewiki.
However, the fantastic editors already incorporated everything, so the old r/TheDeprogram wiki has already been added to Prolewiki!! 
Not a consistent deprogram listener or subreddit user
just a commie
Funnies aside, my personal opinion is quite similar to yours, especially the "Keep the agitprop on one side, and the fun hang out space and theory discussion here" part.
On Reddit, the Deprogram sub operated in a very similar fashion I would say. We frequently had new users who were just checking out the sub (maybe after interacting with a leftist post on Reddit or after listening to the podcast) as well as a portion of our users who were more familiar with theory and were there to answer questions and share memes.
It could be argued that Lemmy.ml - being the largest openly leftist instance that hasn't defederated from most liberal/reactionary instances - would be the closest thing available on the Lemmyverse to Reddit as a whole (no offence to Lemmy.ml of course. I'm not trying to insult this platform by comparing it to one openly defending Zionists and their genocide).
And I've often seen your excellent reading list here, just like I've seen it being used by users that were not from 1 of those 3 main leftist instances. That level of usefulness and reach is in part what inspired me to write this whole post
if I make a post on Lemmygrad it doesn't show up on other instances or something like that?
A post on Lemmygrad will mainly show up on Lemmy.ml, Hexbear and a few others that allows it (like Lemmy.zip)
I've been making posts and comments in other instances and it seems to all work?
This depends on your idea of "working" in this case. If you mean that your posts and comments will be visible to other leftist users, it will show up without problems to people from Lemmy.ml, Hexbear etc. If you mean that your posts and comments will be visible to ALL users across the fediverse, then no.
Let me know if you have more doubts! You might also find this megathread where we answered some of the most common questions to be helpful
I was waiting for the moment when you showed how uninterested you actually had been in this conversation because you only wanted to share your incorrect opinion.
And now, when faced with actual pushback, you started relying on the only thing you could think of in your ignorance on the topic at hand: namecalling.
We all knew you didn't care to begin with
As you can see from the screenshot, we have been the top community on Lemmygrad for this month. This is likely due to the sudden influx of users following the Reddit ban. However, as time goes on, I would expect this to fluctuate again as the new Lemmy users find their way across this platform and gain more familiarity with different communities on the Lemmyverse.
With this likely upcoming change in mind, I created this post after I had this conversation right here, where some users pointed out the difference in reach between Reddit and Lemmygrad.
On the old sub, we had an automod (preprogrammed responses) that provided short answers to the same frequently asked questions that we have all seen many times. For example, typing !holodomor would trigger an automod reply with a short introduction and additional links and information for further reading on the topic.
Example of automod reply for !holodomor
The Holodomor
Marxists do not deny that a famine happened in the Soviet Union in 1932. In fact, even the Soviet archive confirms this. What we do contest is the idea that this famine was man-made or that there was a genocide against the Ukrainian people. This idea of the subjugation of the Soviet Union’s own people was developed by Nazi Germany, in order to show the world the terror of the “Jewish communists.”
- Socialist Musings. (2017). Stop Spreading Nazi Propaganda: on Holodomor
There have been efforts by anti-Communists and Ukrainian nationalists to frame the Soviet famine of 1932-1933 as “The Holodomor” (lit. “to kill by starvation” in Ukrainian). Framing it this way serves two purposes:
- It implies the famine targeted Ukraine.
- It implies the famine was intentional.
The argument goes that because it was intentional and because it mainly targeted Ukraine that it was, therefore, an act of genocide. This framing was originally used by Nazis to drive a wedge between the Ukrainian SSR (UkSSR) and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). In the wake of the 2004 Orange Revolution, this narrative has regained popularity and serves the nationalistic goal of strengthening Ukrainian identity and asserting the country’s independence from Russia.
Additional Resourcs:
- Soviet Famine of 1932: An Overview | The Marxist Project (2020)
- Did Stalin Continue to Export Grain as Ukraine Starved? | Hakim (2017) Archive
- The Years of Hunger: Soviet Agriculture, 1931-1933 | Davies and Wheatcroft (2004)
- The “Holodomor” explained | TheFinnishBolshevik (2020)
While such automod responses were very useful on a platform like Reddit (where all sorts of users might get recommended the subreddit or a particularly popular post among their suggestions), those automod responses are less relevant on Lemmygrad itself because of its nature (an openly Marxist-Leninist forum with a registration procedure) and its defederation from other instances (defederation simply means other instances are no longer allowed to interact with/view content of Lemmygrad itself).
Lemmygrad has already defederated from more reactionary, liberal or "apolitical" instances. To my knowledge, these are all the instances that do not allow Lemmygrad to interact with their own instances:
- lemmy.dbzer0.com, lemmy.world, feddit.de, sh.itjust.works, lemmy.blahaj.zone, midwest.social, lemmings.world, szmer.info, astraea.pink, feddit.org, feddit.kyiv.ua.
I got the above list from here, where you can read some of the instances' own "reasoning" for defederating from Lemmygrad...
TLDR from here ↓
So, while Lemmygrad is clearly a safe space for Marxist discussion where there is less harassment from anti communists, this comes with limited reach outside Marxist communities and posts/comments from Lemmygrad will not appear on those instances, limiting cross-instance visibility.
This is not necessarily a drawback, of course. For example, from my point of view, being on a platform like Lemmygrad involves fewer daily actions required as a mod than I had to perform on Reddit. But if you are one of the users that joined more recently, you might see it differently. So it really depends.
That is why I am opening this discussion, to hear more opinions from the very same users that interact with this community.
Do you see Lemmygrad primarily as a great space for studying theory among fellow communists and building solidarity in a protected space? Or maybe you think the Deprogram is more about outreach and engaging with a broader leftist audience (including those not yet Marxist)? Or maybe something else entirely?
Feel free to express your thoughts and opinions on this, so that we can have a better understanding of the type of user that interact with this community.
Welcome to your new online home!
Whether you’ve just joined out of curiosity after the banning of the original r/TheDeprogram or you’ve decided to leave Reddit for good, I’m glad that you’re here and this megathread is for you!
Instead of having multiple comments across different posts, which might make it difficult to see, you can now ask your questions and post your feedback here.
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ELI5 What is Lemmy? What is Lemmygrad? What's the difference?
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Can I get a TLDR?
You sure can!
- Choose an Instance (For Marxist/Leftist communities, I recommend one of the following 3. Each of these Instance explain their values and moderation policies):
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Sign up and personalize your profile
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Choose how to browse (You can find a lot of options right here based on your preferences - you can use an app or an alternative front-end)
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Find your favorite communities to subscribe to (Instead of subreddits, here we have communities!)
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That’s it! You’re ready to interact with other lovely users and engage in the community
If you want to share your opinion after joining Lemmy, seek feedback on the best browsing apps, or discuss anything else, feel free to do so right here!
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A user wrote this very helpful guide that talks about everything.
And we also had this thread with more useful information.
Think of defederation as blocking. If you block a user, you'll stop seeing what they share and their comments. It's similar to what happens when an instance blocks another instance