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Allow me to list all the reasons why the government cares and all the repercussions that will come out of it:
Perfection
I think you missed:
Government of the people, for the people, and by the people. Not now.
Unfortunately, the people voted for this.
Kinda? Most Americans are extremely low-information on politics, and never proactively educated as to how to find that information or sometimes even why it matters. We are the most propagandized population on Earth, our country has little to no standards for factual information in media and several of our major outlets are just pure corporate spin, while all of our major newspapers are owned by oligarchs. Demographic fact is gerrymandered out of our districts, our default voting method creates perverse incentives to elect popularity over platform and locks third parties out of viability. Individual jurisdictions decide how voting is accomplished and more often than not use this power to make it difficult to do so instead of easier. There is almost no enforcement of laws requiring leave from work to vote. There is next to no oversight of our physical voting machines and little trust in tabulation, while parties can and often do purge voter roles between elections without informing those who they nullified. Ultimately most people didn't vote for this because quite frankly most people don't or can't vote for one of the reasons above, something that I missed, or a tragic apathy created by said trainwreck of conditions.
Saying "The people voted for this" sounds logical but the reality on the ground makes the statement wholly disingenuous. At the very least it's not a statement that can be built off of for a more productive outcome, in fact it functions as a thought-terminating cliche and provides cover for a class of power who continuously work to keep this set of circumstances cemented in place.
It's not. There's no other way to have a govt "for the people" than to hold an election.
That may be but it doesn't make it untrue.
I don't think you're really addressing what I wrote. I'm not saying it's untrue in a strict sense. I'm saying it's a disingenuous point. A misleading framing. An uncritical, not entirely applicable, and wholly unhelpful approach to our political issues.
While the US has always had oligarchic tendencies, from my experience living there for several years, the current wholistic debasement of governance and liberal democratic values is mostly self-inflicted by the population. It's a choice.
A significant portion of the population are supportive of crime and corruption, another group simply don't care and another group might understand that things are not going well, but they are too well off (on a relative global basis) to risk rocking the boat until it's too late.
It's not like the US is suffering from immense poverty with +50% of the country being illiterate (e.g. South Sudan) or has to deal with centuries of constant imperial attacks by a much larger neighbour or a multitude of truly challenging factors with respect to implementing good governance.
You mention the notion of productive outcomes. One can argue that by wholly ignoring the role of the public in the US becoming a full on chauvinistic oligarchy, one is moving away from productive outcomes. If an issue is related to the behaviour of the public, you won't solve it by pretending the public had no role to play.
Happy to elaborate if you are interested. I know my reply was very high-level.
I've lived here my whole 40 years and can verify that while a significant chunk of our voting class (Because it very much is a class thing) are sheltered enough from consequence that they are either still satisfied with status quo or their disaffection leads them only to encourage debasement, the class living a tenuous and effectively disenfranchised existence is much larger. Did you know that despite our last presidential election having the largest turnout in US history, less than half of citizens and barely more than half of eligible voted participated? Whether disenfranchisement or apathy, neither of those reasons generate from nothing.
But my point above was not that it's incorrect to point the blame squarely at US voted for their government's decline (Even though I would probably argue, in a separate debate, that it is), my point is that it's entirely the wrong tree to be barking up when trying to figure out how to put America back on "The right track". Thinking that we can just yell at Americans until they vote progressive is to deeply misunderstand the nature of power. Asking why Americans are so disaffected, apathetic, or disenfranchised that they don't participate in politics is perhaps a good first question, instead.
I sure as fuck didn't...
Yes, well, you are not "the people", you are "a person".
"Some people" voted for this, not "the people". Trump didn't even win the popular vote for fuck sake.
"The people" collectively voted for this.
Except they didn't. Trump LOST the popular vote. This is not that hard to understand.
Except they did. Trump WON the election. This is not that hard to understand.
So, you have no idea how elections work in the US, got it. I'm done. You're either to stupid to understand or you're just a troll.
Sorry russkie, your disinformation campaign won't work here.
Lol, what fucking disinfo campaign?!
You think Russia is spending energy to argue online that not all Americans are trash and that the majority of us didn't vote for Trump?
My dude.... this is sad, it doesn't even make sense. It's the kind of shit that a hack who only cares about being right would come up with. Or someone who is not here in good faith.
Now I'm thinking your just a duche-canoo fascist here to stir up shit. Get fucked. Have an awful day.
The disinfo campaign where you try to pretend like Americans are better than they are by suggesting Trump was not fairly elected.
And...putting words in my mouth. Once again, get fucked.
I said he didn't win the popular vote, not that he was not legally elected. I'd tell you to learn to read but you'll never admit you're wrong so what's the point.
Fuck off troll.
No, what you said was that the people didn't vote for him.
And you're also not fooling anyone with your personal attacks and accusations of me for things that you yourself are doing.
I said he lost the popular vote, you're the one claiming that by winning the electoral college that means America as a whole elected him.
You tried to paint me as a Russian by lying about what I said so you can fuck all the way of with your whiny little tirade about personal attacks.
Try harder, this is pathetic.
That's literally what that means. This is how elections work. You suggesting otherwise is suggesting that somehow the election was manipulated.
You're the only person lobbing personal attacks and attempting to spread disinformation.
Alright, I'm done. You're just arguing definitions and terms at this point. Try doing some courses on reading comprehension.
Edit: your a fucking bigot too. Saying all Americans are bad is no different from saying all jews are bad or all black people are bad. Get fucked.
Once again, trying to lazily misrepresent my statements. No one said "all Americans are bad". I thought you were done?
Get fucked bigot.
Back at ya, russkie
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Edit: for anyone reading these this fuckstick replied in English then edited the reply to Russian (Cyrillic?). My only guess is they were trying to do some weird "look he replied he knows russian!" type shit. Pathetic.
By some of the people, for a few of the people, and subsidized by the rest of the people.
Fsvo people.