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[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'm willing to say I'm not happy with either system. Corporations should pay and be held accountable but citizens should have a right to privacy and not have the sum of their actions turned into a number.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

citizens should have a right to privacy and not have the sum of their actions turned into a number.

That “number” isn’t real. China does not have a single nationwide “social credit score” that rates every citizen.

What actually exists is a set of legal blacklists, the most famous being the court judgment defaulter list (失信被执行人). It applies to people who refuse to comply with a court decision, usually things like unpaid debts.

If you ignore a court order, the court can place you under a high-consumption restriction (限制高消费). That means you can’t spend money on certain luxury services (first-class train tickets, flights, five-star hotels, or other high-end purchases) until you comply with the judgment.

You can still travel normally, stay in regular hotels, work, shop, and live your life. The restriction is specifically designed to stop people who refuse to obey court rulings from enjoying luxury spending while ignoring their legal obligations.

The popular idea in the west that everyone in China has a constantly changing personal “score” based on everyday behavior is simply western fantasy.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago

God the more and more I hear about China the more based it is.

President Xi Jinping save us all

[–] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm impressed. The US legal system is incredibly anemic when it comes to punishing corporations for violating workers' rights. I hope we really can achieve a multipolar world, one where a standard like this is upheld to emulate, and not the rotten neoliberal legal morass of the West.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's because the US like pretty much all the western world is a dictatorship of capital why would capital willingly discipline itself. China is a dictatorship of the proletariat hence the constant crackdowns on unruly capital and capitalists that is impossible in the west.

[–] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Of course. I wasn't suggesting otherwise. I just hope CIA propaganda loses any appeal it may have outside of the imperial core. As for inside the core, it's hard for me not to feel 'doomer' about the state of the working class. I think there would have to be a sudden, extreme change in material conditions before the working class would start to 'wake up' en masse here.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago

You should be happy to know then that the social credit score only applies to corporations and individuals who do business with the government as contractors, it doesn't apply to private life and doesn't make anything illegal that wasn't already legally punishable (even then minor crimes aren't covered).

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

Corporations should pay and be held accountable

No. The board and the directors should be personally responsible, and should be punished in addition to the corporation paying money at the minimum.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago

Yeah the made up system that doesn't exist in the real world is really fucking scary OMG.