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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Democracy is only as good as the voters. The average Chinese is better educated and a better citizen overall than the average USAmerican. Thus the difference in results. My experience with Chinese and USAians confirm this, even if anecdotal. I could have just missed the bad Chinese and was overexposed to bad USAians.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democracy is only as good as the voters.

I wouldn’t know. I’ve never lived in one.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Western liberal democracies are structurally flawed, and despite the immense systemic advantage capital already enjoys, capital still needs to manipulate education, religion, and media to persuade people to vote against their own material interests. The result is a political landscape that, in many cases, produces outcomes more dysfunctional than those seen in some modern monarchies or even historic feudal systems—yet with the added disadvantage that many citizens remain unaware of their own diminished political and economic conditions, convinced they live in the freest societies on earth and that everything elsewhere must be worse. Concluding such a system is not truly democratic, or merely a democracy of the bourgeoisie is a valid conclusion, because whether systematic or through manipulation of education, religion and media, they are the only ones who benefit from it, and the majority have no means of getting what they want.

I know you already know this. This comment was meant for any lurker who doesn't know. The people who think they are one election away from fixing the system if they would only voter harder.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 23 hours ago

And I know you know I know 😉

[–] DornerStan@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also bourgeois/liberal democracy is the quintessence of adopting democratic aesthetics, forms, and language without any actual democratic function. No one can vote according to their interests, and no one's votes actually influence policy.

The reason most modern imperialist states have evolved their own form of liberal democracy is because of how effective it is at mediating domestic capitalist contradictions so they can be externalized.

If the US were somehow a true functional democracy it would have evolved beyond capitalism decades ago.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago

“To decide once every few years which member of the ruling class is to repress and crush the people through parliament - such is the real essence of bourgeois parliamentarianism, not only in parliamentary-constitutional monarchies, but also in the most democratic republics.”

― Vladimir Lenin, The State and Revolution

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am deeply concerned that this is getting worse, not better. I sincerely hope I'm totally wrong about this, but I see young "educated" Americans more and more being unable to think at all. The kids in university now are liberally using commercial LLMs to finish assignments. People are surrendering their ability to think to private corporations. Imagine in 10 years from now, a man who can't pay his AI bill can no longer survive on his own. And even if he could, he could only ever do what the corporate model deems acceptable. Just fully giving up agency because agency is friction.

I can't respond to this email without paying Sam Altman! I can't wipe my ass without Grok!

I'm drunk. I'm sorry. I hate what is happening, and I am helpless to stop it.