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It's bad under capitalism, because it means that the ruling class get to keep an even higher percentage of profits.
Under socialism, it's good.
Fully automated luxury gay space communism would be awesome, but until we get socialism, we should take cues from the luddite movement.
.........ok, I was with you until "gay space". Now I'm just confused.
Sorry for confusing you, I was just half-jokingly referencing a meme
I am not saying capitalism is flawless. It gets ugly quite often. But how do you know it’s good under socialism? Have you lived in socialist society or know any examples where it thrives. Socialism idea being romanticised a lot these days. Sadly reality proves it’s an utopian model.
Hey, thanks for the thoughtful question, sorry to see people downvoting you.
Socialism is a broad tent - all it functionally means is that instead of the ruling class owning all of the factories, businesses, hotels, etc. where people work, the actual people who do the work own and control their workplace. Instead of having a single boss at work who owns the place, you'd have a stake of ownership yourself, and equal say over your workplace.
So there are obviously lots of different approaches we can take to achieve that, and I agree we need to learn from history and avoid the mistakes of the past.
Capitalism inevitably results in fascism, so it's a choice either between a utopian ideal that can be difficult to achieve, or a capitalist death cult which is guaranteed to consume as much as it can before it collapses.
Socialism: Drones take over peoples jobs -> These people work something else / everyone works less.
Capitalism: Drones take over peoples jobs -> These people starve.
In a socialist setting, the advent of better and better robots and drones would be a boon for society. Menial and transport jobs can be done by machines, while humans shift their work elsewhere and/or simply work less.
In a capitalist setting, that's not the case. Robots take over human work, not to free up those humans to do something else, but to raise profits for the owner of those robots. This leads to less and less jobs for people and since your worth and right to live is tied to your job in capitalism, this doesn't bode well for society.
Large scale automation would be great in a system, that tries to facilitate the best possible living conditions for its citizens with the least amount of work.
Capitalism sadly isn't interested in making the citizens work as little as possible. It's interested in generating profit for the people at the top.
You’re not wrong, but my point was the fact that automated deliveries are a far off fantasy. By the time the physical technology exists to do this, the collected data will be irrelevant. Sure it would be better as a communist fantasy, but the reality is this is useless data being sold to companies that want to pretend it’s possible so their stock value goes up.
it literally already exists and is in use, with the market leader having completed over 9 million deliveries, there's also a viral video of a food delivery robot getting hit by a train
A single company has some robots delivering short distances in three affluent FL cities. Boxes on wheels will work in a tiny fraction of places around the country and the world. The vast majority of the data collected is useless for them. The technology doesn’t exist to do any better either.
Like I said, Coco Robotics the company behind the FL robot deliveries is more likely to be a company hoping to be bought on the promise they can do more in the future than actually expecting to do any more. They’re private, so we don’t even know what their actual economics look like.
I'm sorry, but you're mistaken. The market leader, Starship Technologies:
Huh, fair enough. Still, I do delivery work as my day job and I’m not worried about a box on wheels taking my job.
Lol the things people tell themselves.
No disrespect, but you probably should worry a little, I don't mean to be a downer, I want to encourage you to organize, join or form a union, so that we can fight back against this stuff. We really need to get off our collective asses and depose the ruling class, and that will need us to get organized.