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As usual, harcore leftists (LFI) and the far-right (RN)

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[–] RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I've a lot of gripes with LFI (notably on this point) but calling them hardcore leftist is just wrong.

Actual far left parties are NPA or LO in France.

Saying LFI is far left is like saying the german SDP or Joe Biden (US) are far left. They are left-center/left at best, their program is no more radical than Mitterant.

[–] Wudi@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

The most powerful woman at LFI is Sophia Chikirou.

She paid tribute to the leader of Hamas :

https://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2024/08/03/sophia-chikirou-deputee-lfi-critiquee-pour-avoir-relaye-un-hommage-au-chef-du-hamas_6265935_823448.html

She also said : "I honestly don't believe China is a dictatorship"

https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/politique/040925/l-insoumission-s-arrete-aux-frontieres-de-la-chine

That's pretty much the far-left dude.

Actual far left parties are NPA or LO in France.

Several LFI MPs come directly from the New Anticapitalist Party (NPA)...

In fact, the leader of the NPA said : "We will likely run no candidates in the next elections. We will just endorse LFI"

It if looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, then what is it? A duck.

[–] tortina_original@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am not sure you understand how ridiculous you sound.

You think someone is on the left because (checks notes...) says something about Hamas and/or China?

Are you ok?

Have people really completely lost their minds?

It's like listening to those idiotic Americans calling everything "extreme left" while not having enough grey matter to at least lookup what extreme left used to do. Not that long ago.

Apparently asking not to be killed these days is extreme left.

Humans are so fucking stupid, it is incredible.

[–] Wudi@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You think someone is on the left because (checks notes…) says somethingabout Hamas and/or China?

The traditional left doesn't praise the leader of Hamas, China, or Venezuela

These are tankies

Last I checked, MLs aren't leftists. Favoring state capitalism and totalitarianism comes closer to fascism than to anything left.

[–] nykula@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

It seems the disagreement boils down to what position is far-left and what is moderate. It's worth remembering that there was far-left opposition (against Russian nationalism in particular) to Bolsheviks inside the party, whom they purged in early years, labeling them bourgeois, and tried hard to suppress them from reappearing. The Bolsheviks also got popular by paying lip service to a much different agenda than they implemented, becoming in practice extremely conservative and repressing worker self-government attempts. So I wouldn't call them far-left, a term that I'd reserve for anarchists and council communists.

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