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Self Hosting for Privacy - Importance of Owning your own Modem/Router? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 3 months ago by bmebenji@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Hi there, I’m looking to get into self-hosting for privacy reasons and I wanted to ask y’all: how inadvisable is it to utilize an ISP-owned router/modem? I feel like they’re able to track everything I do online with their more than likely integrated spyware.

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[–] haroldfinch@feddit.nl 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Recently, a major ISP in the Netherlands was determined to be streaming metadata from within their customer's networks to Lifemote, a Turkish AI company.

Here's a report in Dutch: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/245620/odido-router-stuurde-analyticsdata-naar-turks-ai-bedrijf.html

This is just the latest one to get caught doing it, but determine how comfortable you are having your internal network exposed to a 3rd party.

I've used personal/non-ISP modems and routers for 25 years because I'm not comfortable with it it. At all... But hey, you do you.

[–] SirHaxalot@nord.pub 13 points 3 months ago

While I would say sending MAC Addresses and Wi-Fi names is very far from tracking everything you do on the internet, this highlight another very important point: The routers that provided by ISPs are usually very cheap and crappy, and this in itself security implications.

Like this example of pulling a script from an unverified HTTP source and executing it as root 🤯.. Not to mention that firewalling and port forward configuration options may be pretty simplified and limited.