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If this happens in Denmark/EU. I will say f**k convenience and go graphene, even though it will make my like more complicated
I use Graphene, it's not that much harder than stock Android. I highly recommended it.
But with less ads?
No ads
In Denmark it is close to impossible to live without iOS or bloated Android.
You need a MFA for verification. Doesn’t work on graphene. Alternatively, a physical code viewer is needed to function. Nobody has cash anymore. If not card, people transfer via mobilepay (venmo like). Mobilepay doesn’t work on graphene. We don’t get physical mail anymore and the apps to view digital mail doesn’t work on graphene. Banking apps, guess… most don’t work on graphene. Soon, we are forced to have an app for public transport if you are a commuter, like I am. I have very little hopes that it will work on graphene.
I was running calyx until mobilepay stopped working. But life got to inconvenient and filled with daily frustrations. Now I get frustrated over iOS. The Android on pixels steal too much data.
Edit: I wonder why this post has 2 downvotes?
Mobilepay, Nordea Mobilbank, Eboks and Rejsekort etc work fine on Grapheneos.
The only app (I'm aware of) that doesn't work is the Mitid app (I use the physical code device).
Mobilepay stopped working for me, so I started using iOS ☹️
The whole app, or just tap 2 pay?
Might be Calyx.
Probably calyx then. It started just hanging when logging in. App clearing didn’t do anything
Apparently Grapheneos's implementation of Play integrity is better, as it relies on the real (sandboxed) play services, rather than MicroG.
Is this a specific MFA? There are open source authentication apps on fdroid.
Can you Venmo via browser?
It is a particular proprietary concoction. Normal MFA apps won’t work it’s called MitID if you want to check it out. I meant venmo like. Not venmo. And no, they don’t offer a browser based “edition” ☹️
So you're using iPhone now but are anonymous to apple? You didn't register any accounts on your phone or in the AppStore with your email or credit card data?
Where is this coming from? I never said that.
I am under no illusion of that. Since google is an advertisement company I tend to trust the other company a bit more. Still the plague or cholera
Because if Apples knows your identity why would you switch phones to avoid giving apple your identity? I'm using Graphene so having to register some account on my phone would be a change for me. If you already have corporate account set on your phone what would this change for you?
I stand corrected. I don’t know where my head was at.
Apologies. What made me baulk was the “ID” part. Not giving them my equivalent to a social security number.
Way ahead of ya. Graphene is mostly working well. Some small issues like MitId not working due to Play Integrity but hopefully the UnifiedAttestation and focus on removing big tech dependence will solve that.
UnifiedAttestation looks promising. Here’s to hoping it’s not going to cause google to sue.
I could not agree more. Ironic to live in a society where we are required to either give our data to American mega corp 1 or American mega corp 2.
Go data sovereignty!
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Why not? I thought swapping was promoted as a benefit of eSIM.
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Can you swap an eSIM to a phone that doesn't use eSIM?
I think you can get eSIM adapters for phones without one built in, but I've not bothered yet, so I might have misunderstood.