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Leopards Ate My Face

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think it is blatantly obvious that 'how thinks work' is just whatever someone does when nobody stops them.

If Biden released them, what would have been the fallout? Literally no consequences and we would all be better off.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I just read that some of Epstein's victims who mistakenly had their names released unredacted in the files were suing Trump. Now that's a relatively minor fix, but it isn't as simple as just throwing the files on a public host.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, it has to be done correctly, but when someone says 'Biden should have just released the files' and someone else says 'that's not how it works' they are not saying it doesn't work that way because of the need to redact a bunch of stuff.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

Lets see

The Epstein files are not one set of files on one server somewhere in the Justice Department. They are a compilation of materials stretching back decades across numerous state and federal agencies, grand juries, and court cases. It includes indictments, superseding indictments, plea agreements (including Epstein’s 2008 plea deal to avoid a 60-count indictment by the Justice Department), search warrants, arrest warrants, trial transcripts (such as that of his sidekick, Ghislaine Maxwell) and exhibits, sentencing memoranda and related rulings. 

Some of these are public by default unless judges ruled to seal them. Numerous civil lawsuits filed by victims and others have also placed information on the public record through the exchange of written discovery, such as emails, internal correspondence, financial records and sworn deposition testimony.

Another category of records is grand jury materials, including transcripts, testimony by witnesses, and exhibits. These are presumptively confidential under the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, absent a court order — or legislation by Congress authorizing their release. 

Even then, these are not the bulk of the Epstein records, which publicly now include more than 3 million pages of heavily-redacted documents accessible to the public through a Justice Department portal created pursuant to the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which passed last November. In August, a federal judge had denied the Trump administration’s request for an order releasing Epstein-related grand jury material.

After that, there are more general law enforcement investigative files, including what are known as FBI “302” summaries of witness interviews; evidence logs; surveillance materials; seized digital records such as hard drives, contact lists, flight logs; and internal Justice Department memoranda, emails and notes. 

Some of this information — such as the identities of victims or individuals implicated in the Epstein story but never charged with a crime — is protected from public disclosure to some extent by the federal Privacy Act. Other information is covered by the attorney-client privilege or similar doctrines.

Law enforcement also usually refuses to release materials related to ongoing investigations, on the rationale that it could compromise future prosecutions. But a good amount of what is known as the Epstein files falls within the government’s discretion to release without a court order, subpoenas by Congress, or special legislation. Attorney General Pam Bondi publicly conceded as much months before Congress ordered release of the Epstein files in the new law. And that discretion to release the files applied to the Biden administration, too.

. . . attorneys general before Trump long operated with independence from presidents after the Watergate scandal, that job has always fallen within the direct chain-of-command to the president. There is no law, constitutional or otherwise, mandating their independence. It is merely a norm, damaged during the first Trump administration when, for example, former Attorney General Bill Barr intervened to delay and repackage the findings of Special Counsel Robert Mueller into Russian interference in the 2016 election, all to Trump’s political and legal advantage.

Garland tried but failed to resuscitate the norm by setting an example of independence and adherence to the rule of law, not politics.

Biden and Garland went by the book. They adhered to institutional values rather than let the public know before the 2024 election that, as Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) recently said, the Republican candidate for president was named in the files “more than a million” times.

Does that make sense?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

It makes sense that they put no real effort into releasing any of the files for bullshit reasons.