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From my perspective "liberal" is still right-wing.
"Wing" is not the term to use. Liberals sat on the left side of parliament, literally the left wing of a hall, so it's accurate and quite literal to call them "left wing". What isn't accurate is calling them leftist, as in socialist, and I think that's the term everyone is actually talking about? Everyone is talking past each other here cause of the wing thing.
Well... The "wing" of a parliament very roughly represents a political compass. Liberals aren't left-wing anymore by virtue of having more politically left parties that occupy those physical seats today.
It does create a very funny situation like here in Denmark where "Venstre" (literally The Danish word for "Left") is a right-wing political party. More right-wing than "Liberale Alliance" (Danish Liberal Party).
But Venstre used to be the left-wing party when it formed. Since then, green parties, socialist parties, communist parties, and various parties adjacent to those ideologies, have formed to occupy the left side of the parliament seats, pushing Venstre's physical seating position all the way to the right side.
With liberals and moderates being more politically left than them, Venstre now sits right next to the most conservative parties of Denmark. They're still keeping the name, though.
Welcome to your own reality
More like the European reality.
Compared to Europe, America doesn't have a left wing. Just a right wing and an extreme right wing.
"Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property, and equality before the law.[1][2] "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
Which translates to:
In other words, all the basic right-wing talking points minus nationalism,religion, and "country first".
Liberalism is fundamentally a right wing ideology, it's primarily concerned about the freedom of markets, rather than the freedoms of people, and when it comes down to choosing between the rights of individuals and the interests of corporations, liberals will side with business interests, nearly every single time. Usually, they'll always couch it in more progressive terms, like talking about jobs and economic growth. That's why both mainstream Democrats and mainstream Republicans agree on most issues, because they're both pro-business, pro-capitalist institutions.
So you can't be pro human liberty anymore? That's what being a liberal is to me. Corporations are not our friends and hate them as much as a leftist. In my mind, my and my peoples liberty trumps your idea of a perfect economic system. Whatever happens along the way to socialism or back to capitalism, human rights must come first. I don't know why that concept is so hard for leftists to grasp. I think leftists are affected by a similar psyop that affects Republicans in this regard
Of course you can, but when people identify themselves or others as "liberal", they're not referring to individual liberty, they're usually referring to "liberalism", which does contain some elements of individual liberties, but far more importance is given to free market economics and free flow of capital, than it is to individual freedoms. That's why corporations can invest anywhere and borders don't pose much issue for them, whereas it is very hard and expensive for individuals to move to another country.
You're talking about lasseiz fair liberalism. Billionaires and corps are not in any way shape or form "liberal" these days unless you want to talk about neoliberals who pretend to be altruistic. It's all a psyop to divide the proletariat
No, I'm just talking about liberalism. You probably have some high-minded enlightenment-era ideals floating around in your head about what liberalism is, but I'm telling you, your ideas about how liberalism is about freedom, that's the actual psyop to divide the proletariat you spoke of. Liberalism is functionally one big propaganda operation to replace monarchies with oligarchies.
I don't think you know what you're talking about. Moreover, you seem to be lumping a bunch of things together.
Are you American? I could blame that on the lack of a proper representative democracy. Everything gets shovelled together into either one camp or the other, even when they don't have anything related to each other.
I know a great deal about what I'm talking about, but if you feel that I'm wrong about something in particular, I'd be happy to discuss it. I am not American.