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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Protests that exist within the legal confines of the government you’re protesting against, are essentially just block parties. They’re a release valve.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I mean no disrespect, but you're perpetuating a myth.

Revolutionary action relies heavily on benign protest for cover and recruitment. Anyone who wants to see a radical overthrow of the government should be thrilled by the No Kings marches.

I have this conversation often with a very experienced, very radical anarchist frequently. He constantly laments the wastefulness and short-sightedness of radicals who shit on the people who cultivate the recruiting pool and create giant, peaceful crowds for the more extreme element to operate concealed within, because they're too concerned with gatekeeping and value signaling to learn tactics.

Be radical. But also: understand that peaceful protest has a very important role to play.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This sounds like wishful thinking to me

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't think it's wishful thinking so much as an analysis. It's opinion, but I'm not really describing a hope for the future so much as my assessment on the present.

[–] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Your friend is an ELDERLY LIBERAL

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I assure you that no one who has ever met him has made that mistake.

Also, I feel sad for you. If you're this unable to conceive of a person who knows something you don't know I suspect you're losing out on every opportunity for growth that passes your way.

[–] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Buddy I lived in Seattle before I left USA, and you think I've never met an anarcho-liberal before. You people are so useless and stuck-up! You're literally just democrats

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net -2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

[–] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

Changing around your ideology doesn't make a damn difference man, what do you think "harm reduction" means for these people? It's just marching to "end fascism" through reform. Saying your goal is Total Anarchy is the same as the Trotskyist orgs saying reformism leads to Permanent Global Revolution. I have traced the fundraising for every org I came across

[–] promitheas@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago

I read about this with relation to Malcolm X and Dr. King. Essebtially the point is that you guve the oppressor only two options: violent retaliation, or peaceful pacifyibg granting of rights. Malcolm X was a bigger threat, so the US government chose to go with the less damaging option of Dr. King, abd ultimately the civil rights movement's goals were achieved (largely, though inperfectly)