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[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 36 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Here's why it doesn't matter:

"AOMedia Video 1 (AV1) is an open, royalty-free video coding format initially designed for video transmissions over the Internet. It was developed as a successor to VP9 by the Alliance for Open Media (AOMedia),[3] a consortium founded in 2015 that includes semiconductor firms, video on demand providers, video content producers, software development companies and web browser vendors."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV1

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The best part of the article is the very end, even if the site makes it look unrelated.

Avanci's Video pool and Access Advance's Video Distribution Patent pool are both now seeking content royalties from streaming services for the use of HEVC, VVC, VP9, and AV1. Access Advance's rates are capped at roughly $63 million per year, and Avanci has published rates of 1.6% to 2.0% of revenue or $0.12 to $0.15 per user per month.

$4.5 million max for H.264 is rookie numbers vs. the $63 million max for AV1

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 minutes ago

How does someone seek royalties on an open, royalty-free video coding format?

[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 35 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Here's why it does matter

Most server hardware thats out there right now doesn't support av1 encoding, so all of those, literally tens of thousands of them in thousands of spread out data centers have to be replaced with brand new +$1,500 a pop cards that do support it before they can use it

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 1 points 26 minutes ago

This is only really true if you have extreme throughput requirements, a regular VOD operation can get by fine on software encoding.

If you have the kind of throughput needs that warrant hardware encoders you're going to want to go ASIC anyway, so regular server hardware won't cut it. Like YouTube for example had to build their own ASICs because of the downright absurd scale they are running at

[–] null@lemmy.org 9 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I was gonna say, I like AV1, but my Plex server says otherwise.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I'm using a 15 year old i5 and a GTX 970, having no issues with AV1 video. Curious what hardware you're running.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I doubt that it's doing real time transcoding in av1, probably just sending the file "as-is" to your client device and you're noticing as modern networks allow real time streaming of files with that size

My server with much newer components does like 5 fps in encoding av1

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Neither of those things support AV1 encoding or decoding. Curious how you’ve come to believe you’re having “no issues” with a codec your hardware has no support for.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Software decoding has clearly been sufficient.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You don't need HW acceleration to playback AV1. Maybe they watch most of their content at 720p and are software decoding and it's been good enough.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah you’re going to need HW acceleration to encode AV1 on your server “without issues”.

Theres a world of difference between something that’s technically possible and something that will just work without issues of any kind. Something being “good enough” implies the existence of caveats. Mainly being that’d be a shitty experience lol.

[–] Alk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 hours ago (3 children)
[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago

Jellyfin somehow makes his hardware support AV1?

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

How would that help at all lol

[–] null@lemmy.org 1 points 4 hours ago

I didn't ask for recommendations.

[–] cheesorist@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

use software transcoding if thats your issue

if plex cannot work at all with AV1, it might be time to move to a non-garbage media server like jellyfin.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

jellyfin is the least functional of the trinity of media servers so that’s not the best recommendation here.

[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago

And those servers are what process your Twitchs, your YouTubes, your Netflixs and etc services

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Most hardware can't decode it either which is very important. Also it's currently being sued over patents

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 2 points 24 minutes ago

Most hardware is only really true if you account for older hardware in circulation, most new hardware will be shipping hardware decoder support for AV1.

On top of this, the software decoder support is remarkable for AV1, libdav1d is a marvelous piece of software, bringing access to a plethora of devices lacking hardware decoder support.

[–] mschae@discuss.mschae23.de 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Can't be too sure about that: https://sh.itjust.works/post/57524423

The whole patent system should just be abolished. And if we can't achieve that, at least software patents.

[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, we've seen what happens with patents. from medical, to agriculture, to automotive to software. The system isn't working even slightly as originally intended in almost all scenarios and should be dismantled

[–] mschae@discuss.mschae23.de 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

“Nah”? You seem to be agreeing

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Maybe the nah was to the just software patents part