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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Do you want Cascadia?

Because this is how you get Cascadia.

Literally 0 chance that BC would join a MAGA controlled USA.

... Non-zero chance that it would join WA OR and CA, should an actual dual civil war kick off.

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

California can’t survive intact without the Colorado river, so you need to convince at least NV, AZ, UT, and probably CO to come too. If California left but Nevada was still part of Trumplandia one of the first things they would do is shut off all outflow from the Hoover Dam.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

Yeah, thats a great example of where you run into the differences between 'Cascadia' as a bioregion, defined primarily by watershed networks, snd 'Cascadia' as a maybe possible legal/political entity, based on current existing borders.

IIRC, the bioregion Cascadia basically only extends down to bits of Northern California... but the political reality doesn't match well with this at all.

Perhaps state delegates could all send couriers to Goodsprings for a conference, to hash out the details, lol.

Cascadia vs Greater California vs ... New Zion/Deseret?

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, water distribution would be weaponized.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Non-zero? How about 100%? Every single person I've ever spoken with about this idea in my life has been on board. I bet 85-90% of the public would support it if the facts could be communicated to them without interference (so, never)

Cascadia would be insanely powerful and competitive on the world stage, probably a superpower.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

The immediate problem would be that Idaho, eastern OR and eastern WA are very very seriously trying to do the whole Greater Idaho thing, and are basically chalk full of armed white supremacist theocrat bigots.

So... yeah.

I guess the 'good' news is that western WA has JBLM and a lot of Navy bases, and maybe enough of them would align with Cascadia ... ?

The bad news is the Holy State of Greater Idaho would probably be able to dash and seize Hanford, and then be able to make dirty nuclear bombs.

But anyway...

Throw in Hawaii and then Cascadia and Japan and SK can form a trading bloc, and theoretically be able to back that up with maybe a little bit of the formerly US Navy?

Total spitballing here.

Alaska sure would be completely fucked.

Airline fuel is pretty expensive these days... for some reason... Didn't BC/Yukon already basically say 'fuck you' to US truckers going between Alaksa and the 48, or I am not remembering that right?

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

I think there was some kind of levy they had to pay, but definitely not a complete ban. I don't think it stuck.