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was there a good implementation of either one?
yes, kibbutz, amish, etc. small deeply religions communities are communist and socialist in their society and it's governance.
these are genuinely socialist/communist ways of living. they also are religious fundamentalists.
there never has been a truly communist or socialist country. just hybrid systems with elements of them, but they tended towards autocracy and massive corruption.
It seems like all the best examples of communism/socialism happen at a small scale, and the large scale examples (USSR, China) seem to just lead to dictatorship and human rights abuses. So maybe the solution is just living in small communities? I don't know.
I lived in a Northern European country through the 90s: definitely yes. Not perfect, but it was quite good really.
What do you miss about it?
I'm not a communist but I do think the USSR was a very successful socialism state. Yes, it was poor - but the wealth of a nation isn't solely tied to the economic system it uses. Russia already had a history of famines, corruption, drinking problems, and was super lacking in technology. And then it also over extended itself for imperialist reasons/spreading socialism (whichever sounds better to you).
And yes it was ruled by some nasty people. But Stalin and Lenin achieved a wonderful turnaround from a wartorn 3rd-world absolute monarchy into a modernised industrialised state that sent spacecraft to the moon and Venus.
If you look into how they expanded their railroads, I mean wow. No capitalist state has done it the way they did. Some precise micromanaging, the persuasion of foreign engineers to settle down in Russia. Stalin got to live like a strategy gamer playing city skylines his entire life.
Instead of asking "was there a perfect implementation of x ideology," which there has never been for any ideology, we should ask "are there successful implementations of X ideas?" And for socialism, the answer is a resounding yes. People will say that the Nordic states aren't socialist (instead being "social democracies") but they undoubtedly implement socialist ideas.
Universal health care - more successful than private health care
Trade unions
Maternity leave...
I know Europe is famous for this but we have that here in Canada too
True, I didn't mean to tie it to nordic states like that I just wanted to list some successful socialist ideas
USSR's success was largely fueled my mass murder, political oppression, and lying about economic growth.
they were 'good' at centralizing power to achieve certain goals, like military and the space race, but their economy outside of such priority areas, was in shambles. their agricultural and industrial capacity was terrible.
Agriculture yes, industrial capacity no.
dude it took years for anyone to get a car. months to get household appliances shortages of basic things like office supplies were common outside of the government, etc
it was shit outside of military production, because basically it all went to military production.
They didn't want to have private cars, public transit is much more efficient and more pro-social. People wanted cars, so they gave them cars, but the cars were pretty bare-bones and it took a long time to get one.
They did have plenty of issues, and yes, they spent a huge proportion of their industrial capacity on the military. Do you wonder why they spent so much on the military? Because they were heckin' bad authoritarians? Or maybe it might have something to do with having been invaded and losing 27 million people, and then immediately have their former allies turn on them and become openly hostile immediately after the war.