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I mean, that comparison was unwarranted and unwanted by the agency he worked for. Calling this "actual journalism" in the title is misleading. You can ask that question without equating Israel-Palestine and Russia-Ukraine that way.
Then that agency isn't a news agency, it's a marketing agency.
True, but also the agency hold the employment contract so...
This is how capitalism leads to fascism, because the ruling class control the media and use it to advance their own interests.
I'll share my more detailed explanation:
How does capitalism inevitably lead to fascism?
My news agency didn't want me to report the news. It's obviously only "actual journalism" if you report exactly what your boss tells you to.
It's a fair comparison.
Can you explain why you feel that way? Genuinely asking in good faith, I can't understand what you might be objecting to about it, but I'd like to hear your perspective.
Russias invasion was completely unprovoked, they deliberately target civilians as a policy at range with shahed drones and missiles and in occupied areas in a way that leads to mass graves. They deny Ukrainian culture exists, kidnapping children (who I think some got shipped to north korea) and move Russians into the territories to replace Ukrainians.
Israel always had tensions and responded to Oct 7, they don't deliberately target civilians, Hamas uses human shields, which leads to dead civilians. (Many rouge soldiers who go largely unpunished, but no statewide policy, so no indiscriminate bombing.) No mass graves from street executions, no children kidnapped. Moving Israelis in to replace Palestinians does happen in the west bank, but not Gaza and it's not really state policy, although they really should crack down on that.
Again, the question makes sense, as for what Israels obligation is, but the comparison is very weird. Also I don't know if Palestinians want Israel to help rebuild and as long as Hamas is the Government there, Israel will not send money for rebuilding, only to have Hamas buy weapons with it.
I would also bet that this is not the first issue the journalist had with his employer.
Oh!!! You're a zionist. That makes a lot of sense. Sorry, I kinda forgot people like you still exist on Lemmy, I thought pretty much everyone had accepted Israel is conducting genocide, but I guess there are still genocide deniers among us, unfortunately.
I was low-key expecting you to say that it was uncouth to compare a genocide to a military conflict
Oh sweet summer child. I don't know if you're being ignorant or deliberately a shameless zionist.
Except there is evidence and actual videos of Israeli soldiers doing the very thing you say they aren't doing.
You're right, Israel-Palestine cannot be equated to the Russian invasion of Ukraine because the former is a genocide whereas the latter isn't. This makes the comparison even more relevant though: "if you call for war reparations here arguing from international law, how are you not calling for even more reparations there from genocide under international law?"
Relocating children? Only allow the Russian language in occupied areas? Deny that Ukrainians have their own culture and are/should be part of the Motherland^tm^? Looks at least like an attempt at genocide to me.
The main source for this claim is the Ukrainian government though, there's no independent journalistic reporting confirming that this is happening at scale
Likely true, haven't done any research but sounds plausible
That's what Ukraine was doing In eastern Ukraine but backwards, and it's very bad policy in both cases. However, this unfortunately happens in essentially every modern nation state (look at Occitan/Breton in France as an example).
In conclusion: Russia is engaging in Russian nationalist policy, and homogenization of culture, which is policy I hate and condemn, but not enough to call genocide unless we say that most modern atates are engaging in genocide.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/03/un-commission-concludes-deportation-and-forcible-transfer-ukrainian-children
https://commission.europa.eu/topics/eu-solidarity-ukraine/bringing-ukrainian-children-back-home_en
https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/12/1166507
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-expands-forced-re-education-deported-ukrainian-children-us-research-shows-2025-09-16/
The "estimated 20.000" figure comes directly from the Ukrainian government, and as I claimed, hasn't been independently verified. The 1.200 by OHCHR is likely true as they claim are confirmed independently (thank you for your source), and while I thoroughly condemn it, I wouldn't argue it amounts to genocide. Forcible removals of custody from children are something Roma people are forced to in Europe very regularly, and while a disgusting practice, I wouldn't agree that it amounts to genocide.
At least four out of five criteria are documented. And while I think Russia/Ukraine and Isreal/Palestine are not comparable in a lot of aspects, what Russia is trying to achieve still does look like an attempt at genocide.
The Genocide Convention recognizes five distinct genocidal acts:
killing members of the group,
causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group,
deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part,
imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group, and
forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Are Putin and Palestine on the same side? Is Putins attack on Ukraine helping the suffering people of Gaza and the Westbank?
I just said: 'Putin attempts genocide in Ukraine.' I didn’t call to allocate resources somewhere or ask to let Israel have it‘s way but stop Russia.
Russia is absolutely not deliberately inflicting group conditions calculated to bring their destruction. Compare civilian casualty rates in the US invasion of Iraq vs Russia's invasion of Ukraine. You are grasping at individual instances, not widespread practices.
They are targeting civilian infrastructure and residential buildings hundreds of kilometres away from the front.
Give me figures for civilian casualty rates and compare them to other modern conflicts like the Invasion of Iraq. You're again talking from isolated incidents and not generalized practice.
What's with the white washing russias genocide in Ukraine? Jesus fucking christ what's wrong with you?
"Everything is a genocide" is a form of genocide minimization against actual genocides, which is why the term should be strictly applied only to actual genocides.
You can condemn the invasion without engaging in fictitious claims of genocide.
From wikipedia: