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[–] 001Guy001@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nonviolence does not mean passivity, it just means different tactics that allow for wider participation and doesn't give the regime and its hired goons an "easy out" by politically/socially/mentally legitimizing the counter-violence to repress the movement in order to maintain "law and order" and "protect" the rest of society from "hooligans"

Of course, nonviolence is not a foolproof method, it just has a better chance of succeeding. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIpgrZ8yS-Q)

"First, it must be emphasized that nonviolent resistance is not a method for cowards; it does resist. If one uses these methods because he is afraid or merely because he lacks the instruments of violence, he is not truly nonviolent. This is why Gandhi often said that if cowardice is the only alternative to violence, it is better to fight. He made this statement conscious of the fact that there is always another alternative: no individual or group need submit to any wrong, nor need they use violence to right the wrong; there is the way of nonviolent resistance. This is ultimately the way of the strong man. It is not a method of stagnant passivity. The phrase "passive resistance"; often gives the false impression that this is a sort of "do-nothing method" in which the resister quietly and passively accepts evil. But nothing is further from the truth. For while the nonviolent resister is passive in the sense that he is not physically aggressive toward his opponent, his mind and emotions are always active, constantly seeking to persuade his opponent that he is wrong. The method is passive physically, but strongly active spiritually. It is not passive non-resistance to evil, it is active nonviolent resistance to evil. A second basic fact that characterizes nonviolence is that it does not seek to defeat or humiliate the opponent, but to win his friendship and understanding. The nonviolent resister must often express his protest through non-cooperation or boycotts, but he realizes that these are not ends in themselves; they are merely means to awaken a sense of moral shame in the opponent. The end is redemption and reconciliation. The aftermath of nonviolence is the creation of the beloved community, while aftermath of violence is tragic bitterness." (Martin Luther King, Jr., https://www.mkgandhi.org/nonviolence/pilgrimage.php)

"Nonviolent campaigns have a participation advantage over violent insurgencies, which is an important factor in determining campaign outcomes. The moral, physical, informational, and commitment barriers to participation are much lower for nonviolent resistance than for violent insurgency. Higher levels of participation contribute to a number of mechanisms necessary for success, including enhanced resilience, higher probabilities of tactical innovation, expanded civic disruption (thereby raising the costs to the regime of maintaining the status quo), and loyalty shifts involving the opponent’s erstwhile [=previous] supporters, including members of the security forces. Mobilization among local supporters is a more reliable source of power than the support of external allies, which many violent campaigns must obtain to compensate for their lack of participants. Moreover, we find that the transitions that occur in the wake of successful nonviolent resistance movements create much more durable and internally peaceful democracies than transitions provoked by violent insurgencies. On the whole, nonviolent resistance campaigns are more effective in getting results and, once they have succeeded, more likely to establish democratic regimes with a lower probability of a relapse into civil war. [..] nonviolent campaigns facilitate the active participation of many more people than violent campaigns, thereby broadening the base of resistance and raising the costs to opponents of maintaining the status quo. The mass civilian participation in a nonviolent campaign is more likely to backfire in the face of repression, encourage loyalty shifts among regime supporters, and provide resistance leaders with a more diverse menu of tactical and strategic choices. To regime elites, those engaged in civil resistance are more likely to appear as credible negotiating partners than are violent insurgents" (Erica Chenoweth & Maria J. Stephan - Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic Of Nonviolent Conflict)

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I keep seeing this sentiment. They're going to do the violence no matter what. They are actively doing it.

[–] 001Guy001@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No doubt, but a violent resistant can bring on more violence compared to a nonviolent one, and it has less of a chance to bring in the wanted changes in the long run.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Case by case basis of course, but MLK wouldn't have been successful without Malcom X. The nonviolent method worked because of the very real threat of a violent alternative.