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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 day ago (3 children)

AI oligarchs don’t want to replace anyone.

They want businesses with money paying them huge subscription fees, and they want lock-in so that all businesses out there depend on their tech to continue to function.

It’s the same model as we saw with streaming video.

They couldn’t care less about the working class, one way or the other, which is part of the problem.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly?

I think AI replacing office workers is just a pit stop till AI can operate kill drones...

Billionaires are 100% asking themselves if they really need us, and the fucked up thing is if robots can grow their food, produce their goods and shield their compounds from us...

They don't need us. At that point theyre gonna want to get rid of us for the space if we can't make them money, and where were headed we won't be able to.

They "need" a small buffer population that enjoys the oligarchs protection from us, but are loyal because they can be killed/exiled at any time.

But 99.9999% of the world population, they're probably ok with killing off already.

If not, they definitely will be once they squeeze every last ounce of resources out of us and the planet starts really dying. They'll even convince themselves it's "for the greater good" to save the planet they killed making their billions.

They're just gonna keep getting crazier, there's no logical reason to think the trajectory or acceleration will change. Eventually it'll be a literal class war unless we prevent by taking our resources back.

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Correct. AI drones that can kill is the goal here.

No doubt about it. There IS no logical reasoning the trajectory will change.

But try to inform the population....

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, there's like five other catastrophes between now and then...

Right now it's 100% an inevitability, but if we fix the shit that will fuck us before that does, we can just fix that at the same time.

Like knowing eventually the sun will run out of helium causing it to grow in size and destroy the entire planet. It sucks, but we got more pressing matters.

Don't waste energy warning people about Skynet, focus on getting rid of billionaires. If we just stop the killbots, the oligarchs will just kill us a different way.

Killbots just leave a better planet behind than nukes or viruses

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

~~helium~~

hydrogen. its currently fusing hydrogen to helium, but because its a fairly average size star, it will be unable to then fuse the helium into later fuels (carbon, neon, oxygen, silicon). so it expands, sheds off its outer layers and becomes a white dwarf, cooling down until its at ambient temperature as a black dwarf.

Edit: so a sun sized star can use helium as a secondary fuel, fusing it down to carbon after a helium flashover (but thats not where our star is at right now). the resulting white dwarf will be a combination of helium, carbon, oxygen and trace amounts of other elements.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right now it uses hydrogen, some day that runs out.

Then primary will be helium, and shit will suck but we can probably maintain life on Earth... But Mars would like be in flames.

Then the helium burns off, and a heavier element becomes primary fuel.

At that point, the flames of the sun likely extend out to the Earths orbit.

I skip steps sometimes and like I said, long enough timeline.

But you skipped the entire "red giant" step...

Before it can become a white dwarf, it's gonna barbecue our entire planet as a red giant...

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

yup. agreed on your timeline.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Wow someone who actually gets it

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The "ultimate question" is: do they really just want a whole lot of people to die? They bluster around the topic like that's a question that you just don't ask, but when you boil away all the BS, what's left is: are you saying that you're going to lock people out of any possible way to feed themselves and their children and just "let them figure it out for themselves"?

[–] searabbit@piefed.social 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes. That's where the white supremacist eugenics comes in. They literally think they're genetically superior and those they deem inferior should die. That's why too many billionaires have like 10 kids nowadays. It's weird christo-fascist "replacement theory" shit.

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They literally think they’re genetically superior

Stephen Miller looking very genetically superior indeed

[–] Furbag@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every time I see this image I swear his eyes get smaller every time.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

You’re looking at his eyes. I feel like I can smell his breath as it hits my face. Truly a terrible picture.

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Tiny pigs' eyes, mouthbreathing, and a hairline receding further than Melania does when Donnie enters her bed? Those are the sure signs of genetic superiority.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I know Elon Musk has a lot of kids. Are there any other billionaires with a lot of kids?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You must remember one thing. The 1% are called the 1% because we are the 99%.

So when we're left to "figure it out for ourselfs" in a life or death situation, historically speaking the end result is revolt and revolution.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, but that won't happen this time, the elite control all the cannon, most of the muskets, the army is overwhelming, the peasants are weak from malnutrition, they'll never succeed in a revolt, they'd be fools to try.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The scenario I'm saying is they either succeed, or they die. Why would they be fools for trying, if they're going to die otherwise?

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, there's the whole "let them eat cake" narrative to go along with that - generations of uber-power and wealth don't teach much in the way of street smarts. The French aristocracy had no personal concept or grasp or even inkling of what desperation felt like, what desperate starving people would be capable of - and there's the true logic of it as well: after they revolted conditions did actually get worse - as everyone predicted - but that didn't matter: as you say, there's no point in hanging on to a pitiful existence through obesiance just because it might be more pitiful for a generation if you revolt.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My father does not get this and thinks I'm speaking nonsense, wonders why I'm unhappy with my job and rushing things.

Because I see it leads nowhere. I'd rather at least die without someone having a clutch over me for once.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago

The question is: when does it hit the tipping point where enough people feel that way that you start getting suicide bombers etc.

The US is a little behind other areas on that front, I do hope we get farther behind instead of catching up.

[–] disorderly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not sure how you think they aim to achieve that business lock-in, but many of us suspect it's by offering a product that replaces workers.