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The facetious response? The angry parade party. As others have said when you repeatedly issue demands and they do not comply to your demands, and then nothing happens, then your teaching everyone your organisation can be safely ignored. Even some radlibs understand this. The PSL has the audacity to not only do this but also call themselves MLs. Like what is the strategy for leverage here beyond electoralism because like a very basic tenet of understanding the political economy is you cannot play by the rules of the class you are hoping to overthrow and then win?
I have other glaring issues with them but the problem is the average westerner, despite any hardship and whatever leftist aesthetic they don, absolutely refuse to learn from those who won. Like right now could one point to a serious PSL strategy where they outline the pitfalls of bourgoisie electoralism, how they going to overcome this, and what scientific analysis they have done so they can focus on populations with the most revolutionary potential? I could keep going and on but I am just going to leave it there. This ain't about some nonsense about purity. I am saying the leadership is a bunch of pseudoscientifc clowns.
All the original BLM leaders were killed off with the quickness but the PSL still stands because they are not a threat, but useful idiots where the state can go "look at these feckless commies". That's the most charitable explanation that they're liberal career oppurtunities. But when you have folks trained from the George Washington University with openly genocidal polices on platforms they promote then this is way more than just ignorance at play here.
People cry wrecker because they haven't been to a third world country where organisations with way less privilege and wealth, in way harsher environments, have done way more, ML or not.
(Rant not directed at you. Please feel to swap any "you's" to a less affrontive pronoun)
What's your opinion on the push from them and their network of orgs pushing for general strikes?
What are their demands? Do you need an ML organisation for a general strike? How does this self-purported ML organisation differentiate itself from a socdem call for a general strike? The likes of DSA/Bernie/Justice Democrats are all pro general strikes.
no investigation, no right to speak. all your "criticisms" are vagueposting and rhetorical questions.
Those questions could be answered. The fact you opted not to is telling.
Never at any point do you make an argument, you simply suggest that there must be a compelling argument, thereby proving your point.
So you've got nothing.
The PSL is a socdem party with sickle and hammer aesthetics. I am being relatively mild in my criticisms. You're going to have an uphill battle if you are tripping up even here.
The west is so fucking hopeless. Like this ain't that hard, this is an ML space and the apologism is pathetic.
I am not even USAmerican but I have to know your fucking politics too because your country has made the rest of the world such a shithole that I have to process your people's fucking bile while you tell me it's good for me.
Let's see in a year's time (maybe not even that) where we are and then you can lecture the rest of the world on your (collective you) mistakes.
It's funny to say that I've got nothing. You aren't being "relatively mild" in your criticisms, you aren't presenting any criticisms at all! You are slinging around some slogans without ever bothering to explain your position, and then demanding others prove you wrong, somehow. You have demonstrated no understanding of either PSL's tactics and strategy or of the actual conditions of working class political struggle in the US. If, at any point, you presented anything resembling a coherent argument, then we would be having a different conversation, but you are just handwaving it away while refusing to elaborate at all, and acting superior because of it.
Ah good, so its not just me who is being hit with a smoke screen of vague accusations here.
Cool we'll see over the course of the next 12 months or so how it all progresses if not sooner.
Fucking western hubris.