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FRSO's news organ does settler apologia in further proof yts will never lead the revolution (fightbacknews.org)

submitted 2 years ago by StalinistSteve@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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To put it as plainly as possible, if the proponents of the U.S. settler-colonialism theory are correct, then there is no basis whatsoever upon which to build a multinational working class communist party in this country. Indeed, such a view sees the “settler working class” as instruments of colonialism, hostile to the interests of the colonized people, rather than viewing all working and oppressed people as natural allies in the struggle against imperialism, our mutual oppressor.

A shame, a sad sad shame. For anyone that's read settlers, or knows about the history of labor zionism, or prioritizes any kind of indigenous voice in their praxis, this is really bad. No peace for settlers! Settlers cannot lead the revolution! I hope we see an end to any respect given to this "settler colonialism is over" politic soon.

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[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

OPs past comments explicitly state that that’s what they wish for.

Also this is a conflation of the current stage of settler colonialism in states such as Zionist Israel and the United States. Settler interests are not a thing anymore in the United States, beyond maintaining the systems of power and consequences of previous colonial policy. Also no one is denying the labour aristocracy, however being a “settler” does not impart magical labour aristocracy privilege to even the vast majority of “white” people directly descendant from settlers.

Also labour aristocracy arises from workers exploiting super profits from external colonies. How does the author sweep aside that in any way?

[–] borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Not once in the article is it mentioned that certain parts of the "multinational" US have vested interest in imperialism and internal exploitation. I'll show you two places where this is completely omitted despite being crucial to the topic

This is because workers of all nationalities, both oppressed nationality workers and white workers, toil shoulder to shoulder on assembly lines and shop floors, in kitchens, warehouses and offices, from coast to coast. Even as national oppression puts greater pressure on oppressed nationality workers, they are still forged into one multinational working class together with their white siblings as they suffer exploitation together under the same bosses.

The multinational working class and the liberation movements of oppressed nationalities found themselves with a common enemy – the monopoly capitalist class. Thus, a united front against monopoly capitalism, based on the strategic alliance of the multinational working class and the oppressed nations, became both possible and necessary.

OP didn't mention that in this thread though. Albeit i haven't checked their past comments on other threads

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I would suggest reading through their comments. They believe that no one beyond black individuals descended from slaves and indigenous population deserve to participate and lead revolutionary organizations and that white participants can neither understand nor have a place in a decolonial world.

They froth at the mouth about “Starbucks leftists” over and over. This person is not serious.

“Deep issues due to the settler base of the parties”

Ie: it’s not government interference or other issues, it’s the white people who ruin everything.

[–] borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay, yeah i don't agree with that view. I just misunderstood OPs views

Still a sprinkle of truth to be found in there though. Specifically when they mention CPUSA, Maki, SACP struggling with the labour aristocracy due to, again, many of them having a vested interest in maintaining the present state of things.

[–] StalinistSteve@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, that's what I believe. I don't think settlers can't participate but they need to be subjegated to the actual proletariat (ie join the PFLP and not Maki, the EFF not SACP) and focus on decolonial marxism and not a labor politics that ignores very real contradictions. When they lead a communist party, you have a party with labor aristocracy conciousness. Also, I don't think Ive ever mentioned "starbucks leftists" like was claimed, no clue where that came from other than trying to make me out as a crypto conservative

[–] borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Alr, thanks for clarifying

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

This is where Starbucks leftist came from. No clue who he is referring to with this. This is the classic conservative line.

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