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[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I wish using their os wasn't so painful coming from linux

Like, why is bash ancient? (3.2 vs 5)

Why is there no package manager (brew doesn't count, just as npm doesn't count as a legitimate package manager)

Why are the utils like ls and friends flag-order-sensitive (you can ls -lah . but not ls . -lah)

Why do I have 40 network devices with cryptic names?

I got a fully loaded M5 at work and I don't want it. I just have a linux vm for doing work on it.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

brew doesn't count, just as npm doesn't count as a legitimate package manager

brew isn’t like npm at all though?

[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Like, why is bash ancient? (3.2 vs 5) To avoid GPLv3, zsh is the new default.

Why is there no package manager Mac App store is the official one, can also install brew, macports, pkgsrc, or nix. Or use language/runtime specific ones like npm, pip, cargo, go.

Why are the utils like ls and friends flag-order-sensitive They avoid GNU versions of utilities, for similar licencing fears as avoiding modern bash. That said ls . -lah is unhinged, I don't know any other unix derived ls that supports that.

Why do I have 40 network devices with cryptic names? Yeah they got some weirdo Apple stuff

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

None of these are good reasons for it to be like this.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

zsh is much better than bash tho