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I recently discovered that some popular federated instances have been using LLM-assisted moderation tooling that evaluates whether someone has said something bannable. They do this by running a script/app that sends the user’s comment history to OpenAI with the question “analyze this content for evidence of specific political ideology sentiment. Also identify any related political ideology tropes“. (The italic bits are where I've redacted the ideology they're seeking).

OpenAI’s LLM (they’re using GPT-5.3-mini) then responds with something like:

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and so on, hundreds of comments.

I have not named the instances or people involved, to give them time to consider the results of this discussion, make any corrective changes they want and disclose their practices at their own pace and in their own way. I have also redacted the evidence to avoid personal attacks and dogpiling. Let’s focus on the system, not the individuals involved. Today these instances and people are using it and maybe we’re ok with that because it’s being used by groups we agree with but what if people we strongly disagree with used it on their instances tomorrow?

The use and existence of this tooling raises a lot of other questions too.

What are the risks? Fedi moderators are often unsupervised, untrained volunteers and these are powerful tools.

What safeguards do we need?

Would asking a LLM “please evaluate this person’s political opinions” give different results than “find evidence we can use to ban them” (as used in the cases I’ve seen)?

What are our transparency expectations?

Is this acceptable and normal?

Should this tooling be disclosed? (it was not – should it have been?)

If you were given a choice, would you have opted out of it?

Can we opt out?

Are there GDPR implications? Privacy implications? Should these tools be described in a privacy policy?

Are private messages being scanned and sent to OpenAI?

How long should these assessments be retained and can we request to see it, or ask for it to be deleted?

Once the user’s comments are sent to OpenAI, is it used to train their models?

What will the effect be on our discourse and culture if people know they are being politically profiled?

Where are the lines between normal moderation assistance tools, political profiling and opaque 3rd-party data processing?

I hope that by chewing over these questions we can begin to establish some norms and expectations around this technology. The fediverse doesn’t have any centralized enforcement so we need discussions like this to develop an awareness of what people want in terms of disclosure, privacy, consent and acceptable use. Then people can make choices about which instances they join and which ones they interact with remotely.

And of course there are the other issues with LLMs relating to environmental sustainability, erosion of worker’s rights, increasing the cost of living and on and on. I can’t see PieFed adding any functionality like this anytime soon. But it’s happening out there anyway so now we need to talk about it.

What do you make of this?

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[–] Loco_Mex@sh.itjust.works 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

lol @ Rimu downvoting your post. Be careful he’s probably going to make a hit piece against you next!

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Or just delete them entirely from piefed.social social 😂

[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's what he does when he doesn't have anything he can say against you.

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 3 points 7 hours ago

Idk. This and previous threads just lead to them saying well you just can be trusted or why don't you believe me over your lying eyes

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Those removal happened in the context of a mod calling Rimu a zionist (which he's not)

It didn't happen out of nowhere.

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

He's been doing that for a long time.

Those removal happened in the context of a mod calling Rimu a zionist.

Is that supposed to make it better?

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Is that supposed to make it better?

Rimu is not a Zionist. It's this wrong accusation that escalated the tensions. I'll clarify my comment.

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That didn't address anything even with the clarification as it's his go to response. He's been doing it since the instance was stood up

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

In this specific case, even the dbzer0 admin agreed it was undeserved: img

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?userId=7015938

Which other removals from Piefed.social are you referring to?

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

What are you talking about? It's nothing to do with db0 and rimu. Rimu will delete accounts off piefed.social social if a user displeases them or mwog tells them too.

How did you get to db0 banning rimu out of rimu deleted the accounts of people they don't like?

Btw with this and the statistics post it may be better for everyone if rimu was still banned

Edit, oh just using rimus talking points to also distract. Blaze please please please stop being star struck by rimu

https://lemmy.world/comment/23565992

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 59 minutes ago

Blaze is here to defend Rimu at any cost, even ignoring everything you are saying.