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I recently discovered that some popular federated instances have been using LLM-assisted moderation tooling that evaluates whether someone has said something bannable. They do this by running a script/app that sends the user’s comment history to OpenAI with the question “analyze this content for evidence of specific political ideology sentiment. Also identify any related political ideology tropes“. (The italic bits are where I've redacted the ideology they're seeking).

OpenAI’s LLM (they’re using GPT-5.3-mini) then responds with something like:

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and so on, hundreds of comments.

I have not named the instances or people involved, to give them time to consider the results of this discussion, make any corrective changes they want and disclose their practices at their own pace and in their own way. I have also redacted the evidence to avoid personal attacks and dogpiling. Let’s focus on the system, not the individuals involved. Today these instances and people are using it and maybe we’re ok with that because it’s being used by groups we agree with but what if people we strongly disagree with used it on their instances tomorrow?

The use and existence of this tooling raises a lot of other questions too.

What are the risks? Fedi moderators are often unsupervised, untrained volunteers and these are powerful tools.

What safeguards do we need?

Would asking a LLM “please evaluate this person’s political opinions” give different results than “find evidence we can use to ban them” (as used in the cases I’ve seen)?

What are our transparency expectations?

Is this acceptable and normal?

Should this tooling be disclosed? (it was not – should it have been?)

If you were given a choice, would you have opted out of it?

Can we opt out?

Are there GDPR implications? Privacy implications? Should these tools be described in a privacy policy?

Are private messages being scanned and sent to OpenAI?

How long should these assessments be retained and can we request to see it, or ask for it to be deleted?

Once the user’s comments are sent to OpenAI, is it used to train their models?

What will the effect be on our discourse and culture if people know they are being politically profiled?

Where are the lines between normal moderation assistance tools, political profiling and opaque 3rd-party data processing?

I hope that by chewing over these questions we can begin to establish some norms and expectations around this technology. The fediverse doesn’t have any centralized enforcement so we need discussions like this to develop an awareness of what people want in terms of disclosure, privacy, consent and acceptable use. Then people can make choices about which instances they join and which ones they interact with remotely.

And of course there are the other issues with LLMs relating to environmental sustainability, erosion of worker’s rights, increasing the cost of living and on and on. I can’t see PieFed adding any functionality like this anytime soon. But it’s happening out there anyway so now we need to talk about it.

What do you make of this?

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

this is flat out not ok, does not matter who is doing it. our instance ls should defederate all which do this.

I would opt out that's no question, but I don't believe it's possible. GDPR does not matter here, as nothing can be proven unless the perpetrators give up themselves

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

What do you think of lemmy being searchable via search engines, since that's how most of the training data is generated? Or that lemmy.world data is already in the OpenAI training sets?

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I know that not much prevents ai crawlers to collect all the content, but I think it is very different when an admin feeds data to it. partly because it's a different legal situation (sadly that does not mean much)

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Firstly it's apparently not an admin but a mod(s?) and I don't think OP reached out to the admin of the instance before making this post otherwise they would have said as much

Secondly from a legal standpoint I don't think there is much difference between an admin signing the instance up for a search engine (aka volunteering the data to be collected) and a mod feeding bits of data to an LLM piecemeal. If anything the former is worse than the latter.