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This morning while checking if Quokk.au's new instance logo was federated out, I discovered that overnight we had been shadowbanned from the PieFed.Social Instance Chooser (This is a tool to help spread out users across the platform and help avoid funnelling users into the largest.)

Knowing that Rimu was happy to explain, I just asked for some clarification as we were visible on every other PieFed instance except his.

Apparently for ' obvious reasons ', of which I can only assume is our left leaning anarchist/pro-trans stance we were chosen not be advertised on the PieFed flagship instance and first point of contact for many potential new users. Seeing as a large portion of our new users found us via this method, it will have a tangible effect on a small instance such as ours.

This was a pretty sad sight to see, and reflects the sort of petty drama that is emanating from the PieFed project lately. It's now the third such move to discredit and harm left leaning instances by PieFed's lead developer. This also shows a trend towards autocratic unilateral decision-making on Piefed.social, of which is starting to be run as a personal fiefdom without consulting the team or users.

I must commend Lemmy.ml for remaining neutral and not letting its own political leanings influence join-lemmy.org, while simultaneously condemn PieFed.social for this immature move that is harmful to the health of the Fediverse.


Following this exchange, Rimu announced a new update to PieFed allowing for some rather concerning things.

  • Modlog: Reason for the action is only shown from trusted instances, so abusive mods won't have an audience. Admins can still see the reason though. Which instances are trusted is set in the admin UI.

This feature means problematic users can now go undetected, and will harm moderators ability to view their past moderation history. For example PieFed.social runs a 'trusted' list of only 34 instances, meaning any mod action taken by any of the hundreds of instances outside of this will not show up. So for example if Quokk.au was to ban a user for transphobia (our most common ban), this will not be reflected for piefed.social users potentially leading towards more hate speech on the Fediverse.

  • Instance silencing similar to Mastodon. A silenced instance is not defederated from but their posts do not show in the Popular or All feeds and their communities are not shown in Starter packs aka Topics. Their communities can still be found in the communities list and joined in the normal way. Once joined, posts in there show up in the subscribed feed as usual.

This is another way to shadowban instances and not 'advertise' them. Surely if an instance is problematic enough that a defederation would be in order rather than this reddit-like move.

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[–] HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pretty awful changes. Doubt I'll ever be moving to Piefed and unless it has a pretty substantial course correction gonna end up giving side eye to anyone promoting it

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Piefed has always been a wrecker project. It's not changing.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 days ago

To EEE the threadiverse, thus protecting the innocent minds of the imperial core labor aristocracy from exposure to wrongthink?

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There is no "correction" necessary, this was the plan all along. Piefed's main selling point always was, "lemmy but anti-tankie". That was the openly stated goal. All those little QoL features that got added at breakneckspeed and with little forethought were to make it easier and more compelling to switch, but I bet the number 1 thing among people that choose piefed over lemmy is that they hate the politics of the lemmy devs (which they don't put into their software) and want the anti-tankie software that bakes it's bias into it's code. A lot of "har har fuck those tankies we like their platform but hate them."

[–] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They have got a hardcoded slur filter no?

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

I don't know anything about that. They got a semi-hardcoded 3000 entry long list of blocked domains including thegrayzone and wikileaks. An admin can unblock one by one or do a manual database transaction to drop the list.

On the flagship piefed.social instance they also flag content from peoplesdispatch and electronicintifada as untrustworthy.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

afaik the only robust slur filter is on hexbear.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml has one too, and I think Lemmygrad.ml.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes but theirs are much less comprehensive

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago