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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 383 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

It will well and truly be dead and gone once old.reddit.com stops working. It remains the one good way to view the site, regardless of device.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Sadly this is (very popular, according to comments here and on Reddit) copium. old.reddit.com visits are a rounding error, per the traffic stats of the normie subreddit I moderate:

Most people simply do not have the technical acumen and tenure on Reddit to know to type in that subdomain. As always, relevant XKCD (posted today on Lemmy, funnily enough):

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 182 points 1 day ago (20 children)

My theory is that they realize that a significant number of power users on the site are still using old.reddit.com, so they are keeping it going because getting rid of it would turn the website into a ghost town. They will continue to push their app and new website because they can push more advertising through it to the people that are just there to consume.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly this is (very popular, according to comments here and on Reddit) copium. old.reddit.com visits are a rounding error, per the traffic stats of the normie subreddit I moderate:

Most people simply do not have the technical acumen and tenure on Reddit to know to type in that subdomain. As always, relevant XKCD (posted today on Lemmy, funnily enough):

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I said it in another response, it isn't visits I'm talking about, it's about who generates content on the website and what percentage of those users use old.reddit.

It isn't copium either, we are speculating why Reddit keeps up the old version at all, after all this time they must have some analytics that it would significantly harm the site to disable it.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

I don't have any evidence either way as far as who uses old.reddit to submit versus who doesn't, and I don't think there is any.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

Well they certainly are driving more people to it by removing /r/all except on the old subdomain.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 day ago (27 children)

You think there are still redditors around?

I think it's just troll farms and bots. Every once in a while someone stumbles into the site and says something. THEN there is a whirlwind of answers/speculations/theories/lies.

A.I is running the show. If I use a certain word or phrase I get filtered. If I say the exact same thing without those "catch phrases" then I see a few votes.

I treat the site as a test site for trying language that gets PAST the trolls.

[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 4 points 20 hours ago

Idk the nish communities are really helpful, 3d printing, Photoshop help, all that kind of stuff. Hell I even was able to have my Dad's memorial pic photoshopped by somebody. It turned out good too

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly I find the website borderline unreadable.

On mobile website you haven’t been able to view and replies for a long time. On desktop it’s just so fucking stupid.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

Well, there it is. I don't have a phone.

Clearly my experience is NOT the norm.

(I do have a device at my house that uses VOIP to "act" like a phone)

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There's no objective data to confirm or dispel your suspicion that there are ~~zero~~ few human Redditors (your hyperbole aside).

There's definitely tons of bots posting and voting (and likely always has been), but I really doubt a large percentage of commenters are bots.

- A non-bot redditor

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There’s no objective data to confirm or dispel

You are correct. I have been paying attention to this for a few YEARS now. It is just MY observation of events I have seen. It is NOT my opinion, it is MY direct observation.

Clearly more study is needed. By THIS administration? NEVERMIND!

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you think you're able to detect a bot by their Reddit comments? I strongly suspect you're assuming low-effort, poorly-written comments are bots, when in reality they're probably just dumb people.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I am 72 years old and I have been on Reddit for 20 years.

I can tell when key words are suppressed by posting the same thing without using those key words.

I'm not just watching what they say, I'm watching what they do, and how FAST they do it.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I've been on Reddit for decades too, and I disagree with you.

  1. Assuming that a post wasn't made and made visible because it has key words that were censored isn't based on logic; you're guessing.

  2. I type fast enough that to a 72 year old it might look like magic or a bot.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So...you don't think I used logic for my guesses.

You guessed wrong.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

You're asserting you know what isn't posted to Reddit and why, based on a hunch, citing your age.

I don't think that's a logical position, no.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One thing I've noticed lurking on AITA is that there's suddenly more people casually talking about being religious. Not like overtly preaching like you'd see in the past, but more people referencing going to church or doing things for religious reasons.

It just seemed out of place and weird. Like the tone of that part of the internet suddenly changed. It's still more liberal than conservative, though that conflict seems to be mostly just not present, perhaps in part because of their rule against political topics, though even when some slip through, it does seem to lean more liberal or even progressive than conservative. Like plenty of abortion support, no broad support for tribal or hierarchical judgements. But it suddenly seems more religious. Christian, specifically.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago

While church attendance is NOW declining rapidly?

I suspect a Christian troll farm at work here. They NEED to indoctrinate at an early age to survive.

They can't use FACTS, their bible doesn't have any good ones.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It really depends on the subreddits I think. It was starting to really go downhill before I was booted, but most of the issues floated around political, news and general subreddits from what I could tell.

Get into interests, like football or music and there seemed to be less rubbish and bot accounts so to speak. I guess this makes sense but that’s what I noticed going out the ban door as I was.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You think there are still redditors around?

I think it’s just troll farms and bots. Every once in a while someone stumbles into the site and says something. THEN there is a whirlwind of answers/speculations/theories/lies.

I guess it depends on where you look. All the subs I've been visiting where people actually hang out, rather than just a handful of karma farmers spamming, are still flourishing*, so I never fully switched to Lemmy, but use both 🤷 Reddit subs have a magnitude or two more people, so imho they're better for news, memes and technical advice, while for the past couple years Lemmy feels better for insightful conversations.

* my main subs are for specific games and apps, a few countries/regions, and r/BestofRedditorUpdates, so ymmv

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I think the bot percentage is proportional to how big a subreddit is and how profitable influencing people browsing it is.

Niche community about how to proplift (stealing small cuttings to grow your own plants)? Zero or close to zero bots.

Crypto community with thousands of comments a day, where it's all speculation that can't be objectively disproven* so bots stick out like a sore thumb and tons of money flying around? You better believe the bots are all over that.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago
[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

I just left last month, I'd say 30% users and rest bots

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it’s just troll farms and bots

It's mostly the most frequented subreddits that are being brigaded and farmed.

[–] FisicoDelirante@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I can guarantee you the Argentina subreddit is heavily brigaded by the extreme right. That's the case I know, but it's easy to imagine it happening in a lot of not so popular subreddits

[–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Of course there are redditors around; I'm another one of them. We frequent the cool subs like the very human /r/FreeGameFindings and ignore the rest of the noise. Milk Reddit for the best of what it has to offer and dismiss the rest. I see nothing wrong with this approach for as long as Lemmy is still budding, relatively speaking.

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[–] SirHaxalot@nord.pub 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you are vastly underestimating the amount of people that only interact with social media through apps in this day and age. Even on Reddit I would be surprised if the old design is more than a few percent of the user base.

It honestly does raise the question of why they are still maintaining the old UI. It seems like it would be an annoying legacy product to keep alive for a tiny part of the user-base. Perhaps it’s used as an API stability canary or something though.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not at all. I'm comparing the vast majority that only consume to a small minority that actually interact and provide the content that others consume. Without that minority all that would be left is bot comments.

Reddit pushes an ad and tracking infested app to make money off the consumers while doing the minimum to keep the content submitters on the site even if they make no money off them. I wouldn't be surprised if old reddit was a couple percent of users but 25% of the comments that aren't bots.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago

Old reddit still has screens and moderation tools that haven't been rebuilt. It's kept on life support for mods right now.

[–] unglueclass23@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

old.reddit.com on mobile is a bit rough but otherwise yeah

[–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
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[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I keep seeing people saying that Reddit will be dead when this or that happens. I've seen a handful of those things come to pass already and reddit it doing just fine.

Most people don't care. They will continue using it. It will survive.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Reddit is doing fine and Reddit is fine are two different things.

Most users complain consistently about it. That's not a good sign for them.

Their popular posts don't get as many upvotes/comments as they used to. There's definitely a decline in usage.

It's being overrun by bots.

Tons of people are getting bot banned off the platform.

It's not like it's going to just disappear anytime soon. But I've seen this many times before. It's a dying platform. But it'll be a slow death. And by death I mean it'll just become irrelevant compared to other platforms. It'll probably never actually go away. No one I know uses Facebook anymore. It used to be HUGE. We ALL used it. Now it's a ghost town on my feed. I've messaged people and never got a response and run into them at a birthday or something months later and "Oh sorry, I don't check it anymore". It's still there, but may as well not be. That's Reddit's future.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Two things I noticed was most subreddits that weren't front pagers are getting way less traffic than they used to across the entire site.

The other is why I left: I saw a front page millions of subscribers subreddit go out of their way to temporarily bot purge during the IPO* drama. Upvotes went from 10k+ to...hundreds. Posting frequency fell off a cliff. It was so disturbing I left because I saw that in conjunction with Benn Jordan's video estimating how much of xshitter was bot traffic which he estimated to be a full third of all traffic on xshitler a year ago.

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've read this exact comment a hundred and one times before you just wrote it. The average end user does not care. We are a vocal minority.

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[–] sanitation@lemmy.radio 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yup.

I'm down to only using Old Reddit on desktop while I'm stuck at work on weekdays. No time for that shithole on weekends.

If Old Reddit goes, that'll be it for Reddit for me.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It died for me the day they got rid of .compact

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago

It was the third party apps for me. I never browser Reddit on their site itself.

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