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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 122 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Please consider donating to PostmarketOS to build up a pure mobile Linux alternative that is completely free of Google's influence. It's the best long-term option we have.

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sailfish is also a great option too

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, Sailfish OS uses a proprietary (closed source) android compatibility layer, as well as a closed source UI.

For the parts they have open-sourced, they implemented a CLA that contributors must sign. It's the HA-CLA-I-ANY license, which specifically allows them a perpetual Copyright and Patent license, and permission to re-license your code contributions to a more restrictive license which enables them sell or package it into a closed-source proprietary app.

Personally I'm be more comfortable supporting the development of PostmarketOS instead, since it is completely open-source with no CLA, meaning no chance of any rug-pulling in the future.

[–] iByteABit@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How does this compare to Graphene? You can also be Google free using it

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

GrapheneOS is great, and it's what I currently use, but it is ultimately a hardened Android fork. One downside of that is it is completely reliant on manufacturer updates to continue to support a phone. Once a manufacturer drops support, the Graphene team must also drop support, as they are reliant on the closed source GPU/hardware drivers that are tied to specific android kernel versions.

PostmarketOS is not based on Android whatsoever, it's a Mobile focused Linux distro using the mainline Linux kernel. It uses open-source drivers for the GPU and hardware which can be maintained and supported for decades, and is completely independent of Google's influence. However, it's still currently rough enough around the edges that it isn't ready as a daily driver, which is why it'd be so helpful for us to donate to it so they can hire more developers to polish it up, as they recently did to improve the audio support of Qualcomm devices.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Awesome. That's what we need and I donate soon.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Graphene is Pixel only and aims for privacy and security.

PMOS aims to bring Linux to the maximum amount of devices (phones, Chromebooks, tablets, QEMU) to give them a life beyond the manufacturer's support.

I would compare PMOS to LineageOS over Graphene.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Motorola will have a GrapheneOS compatible handset. I use a Pixel 9 Pro with GrapheneOS though, and it works reasonably well.

https://9to5google.com/2026/03/01/motorola-confirms-grapheneos-partnership-for-a-future-smartphone-porting-features/

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reasonably? What issues have you encountered?

Considering putting it on my phone

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's a PITA to use. You set up different profiles for different uses to separate out app tracking. Turn off Google services when you can. Manage each app. Switch profiles around constantly.

It's work But... ain't nobody watching you.

Security. Privacy. Convenience.

Pick two.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

You don't need to use multiple profiles. You can just have one profile and use the phone like any other Android.

[–] feluxe@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is just Android with extras. You don't have to create a lot of profiles. I use one profile for F-Droid and one for Google services (sandboxed). You could use it with just one profile for everything as well. I have shortcuts on the home screen for switching profiles, which improves ux a little.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, you could. But that defeats the purpose.

[–] AvocadoCumToast@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

The purpose of?

[–] markon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They always watchin' spooks errywhere.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

GrapheneOS won't protect your cellular data and metadata. It can't stop location tracking by cell tower. But it does a lot for those who are privacy concerned.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

It's still ultimately downstream of Google code, though

[–] freddo@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Technically you cannot since they basically develop Android.