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Suggestions for choosing email provider (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 day ago by oi34ojjhkew@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.world

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I am trying to choose an email provider, to use with my identifying accounts (like banks, gov ids, etc.). I feel that emails for such cases do not need to be end-to-end encrypted, since most information would already be present with banks, gov, etc.

So I was looking at non-E2EE emails - Mailbox and Posteo.

Between Posteo and Mailbox - which one do you use / is better in terms of privacy?

I noticed that both of these are hosted in Germany. With rise in popularity of right wing party, a bunch of stuff around chat control and verification, and even normal German government support for Israel, I was wondering whether I should look for other solutions hosted elsewhere. Or use Proton / Tuta instead?

Also, I am not sure if any of these companies support right-wing or Israel themselves?

Do you have any suggestions regarding this?

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[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tuta over Proton. Proton is making a beeline for mega corp status. They’re only “privacy focused” on the surface. They host outside of their country, happily hand over user data when asked, keep adding paid apps instead of locking down the core ones with better security, and make comments on politics (a big sign they’re looking beyond their current state in hopes of an IPO some day.

IPOs are the death knell for a company. It’s the cutting of the enshittification ribbon! 🎀

[–] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

Proton is legally required to hand over certain user data, which I wouldn't describe as happily given how much they fight or deny the requests. Proton itself does not comment on politics, the CEO of the for-profit company does. His opinion does not represent Proton in both the non-profit and for-profit part. Proton AG (the service provider) is majority owned by the Proton Foundation. The non-profit side forces the for-profit side to put ethics above profits while allowing the for-profit side to have the benefits of being for-profit. I doubt the non-profit would green light an IPO.

[–] eodur@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been using Proton and have been happy in general, but I agree with the sentiment. It feels like they are on a negative trajectory and are doing little to assuage that feeling. If I was picking a new privacy suite now it would probably be Tuta + Mullvad.

[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

I was an ultimate plan subscriber for two years. Just left this year after some digging.