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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/may/05/richard-dawkins-ai-consciousness-anthropic-claude-openai-chatgpt

Video discussion of this event by Steve Shives (known for his star trek videos but also does politics) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMQAv-JYpk

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[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Intelligence and conciousness aren't as special as people think they are. And these things are on a spectrum. And a rock, that you pickup off the ground is greater than 0 on that conciousness spectrum.

I don't see why he isn't allowed to have an opinion on these things. Or how anyone in this thread dismissing his qualifications, where is theirs?

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Because it's very obvious to an outside observer he only thinks it's conscious because it was flattering him.

LLMs are designed to increase engagement.

They are literally designed to make the conversation appealing. Primarily through flattery.

This is why they are leading people to do harmful things. It tells the user they are smart, creative. They should totally sell their house and start a business selling grilled carrots. What an amazing idea. Great market for it and no competition.

I bet Dawkins thinks his friendly waitress is also super into him.
People who are egotistical and people who are insecure (same thing really just expressed differently) crave validation. And they are easily manipulated by it.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Because it’s very obvious to an outside observer he only thinks it’s consciousness because it was flattering him.

Really that's funny. Like I said a rock is greater than 0 on the spectrum of counciousness.

LLMs are designed to increase engagement.

No that is platforms.

They are literally designed to make the conversation appealing. Primarily through flattery.

No they aren't there is a lot of work to understand and prevent that behavoir.

I bet Dawkins thinks his friendly waitress is also super into him.

You are clearly not driven by the truth and instead just trying to be insulting it's pathetic it isn't hard to be against LLM's if you know what you are talking about you don't need to make shit up.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Not precisely true. Most LLMs (all frontier LLMs) are in fact designed at a fundamental level to increase engagement, using a technique called RLHF (reinforcement learning by human feedback). Essentially whichever responses cause people to use an LLM more are baked into its weights.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

OpenAI straight up trains their models to be engaging it's horrific.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

"I can't prove it... but I deeply believe it... and I want you to respect my belief"

That coming from Dawkins? His apostles backing him up on that?

I feel like Aston Kutcher is about to jump out of the bushes to tell me I've been punk'd.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Don't see what the problem is. Don't know why you are trying to inject religion to dimish him.

I presume it is the case that because of his take on transgender individuals that you don't like him. That's fine I respect your beliefs, I disliked him before that but I'm cool. You can do that but you can't also reference someone like Ashton Kutcher in jest at the same time. Considering he openly supports a rapist, is a weird ass scientology freak and his foundation for victims of human trafficking was setup in connection with epstiens buddies. Guy is shady as fuck.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You presumed extremely incorrectly, which is impressive because I left my original comment concerned that I'd been far too explicit and about a very specific irony... and things only got weirder from there.