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But therein lies the difference. And it's not just saying the quiet part out loud, it's doing the quiet part out loud. Sure, it's never been great, but 30 years ago the president wasn't a cult leader openly trafficking people to offshore torture camps and proudly disobeying court orders while getting cheered on by his followers.
Someone tell this guy about Guantanamo, you know that thing a certain president from years ago was definitely going to close.
Or the many black sites serving the same purpose.
For the rest of the world it makes zero difference what president regime changes or bombs their country.
The imperialist bullying hegemon policy is bipartisan and eternal.
Same as supporting the MIC, banks, multinationals, oligarchs and the genocider state.
That never bothered Americans but now they're mad bcs they are getting a taste of what they do to the rest of the world.
Idk man. Gitmo is a thing yeah but don't pretend everyone has the same attitude towards it.
Under Bush and the war on terror, it had like 680 people. Then Obama tried closing it, got the population reduced to 41. Then Krasnov ordered it kept indefinitely open. Biden tried closing it. Now it's at 15 prisoners, but Uncle Shitpants has just signed a memorandum for it to expanded to be able to house 30,000, run by the Gestap... uh, sorry, my English... I meant "ICE" .
You are right in that its hypocritical, but two wrongs don't make a right man.
Oh yes, the eternal "we tried but we are powerless" excuse.
They are just as guilty and use it for anything.
Bush made the draconian Patriot Act, Obama 'gets rid' of it and make an even worse Freedom Act.
Trump makes an insane and incredibly dangerous decision to unilaterally break the missile treaties, what does Biden do? Fuck all.
And IDC how many or little there are in Guantanamo.
The US has plenty other torture sites, and whatever faction is in charge, fascists or fascist-lite, they mass murder constantly.
Like Biden in Palestine and Jemen, or the drone king.
I'm glad Trump is expediating the inevitable downfall of your country, it's the best thing that could happen for the world.
No they're not. They might be guilty, but they're clearly not equally guilty, when one side is trying to shut down the camp and one is trying to expand it to hold 30,000.
You can't be so naive as to think that presidents are automatically autocrats, and that Obama and Biden "didn't really" want to close Gitmo?
I wouldn't be surprised if you equated Obama to Putin next. Which would give away your allegiance pretty efficiently.
Oh no. I don't live in the developing world like the US or Russia. Eww. Do you?
They were never trying to shut down the camp.
I'll reveal some shocking news: politicians lie!
Oh remember how they were 'tirelessly working on a ceasefire' (in the genocide they are 100% complicit in BTW)?
https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/04/29/biden-never-pushed-for-a-ceasefire-in-gaza/
"I wouldn’t be surprised if you equated Obama to Putin next. Which would give away your allegiance pretty efficiently."
TF is that supposed to mean?
Putin never had a 90% innocent civilian casualty rate from droning.
He is a saint compared to that mass murderer.
Or is this your way of deflecting?
I know libs do that and get angry when confronted with how horrible their party is.
Oh look, here's another great human being:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fhold-up-let-him-cook-v0-2y9jhfrg1eye1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Df70011d231371d198dbc974e9bf5de6238aac972
Oh okay you're a Russian troll.
You're gonna argue that, obviously. Reality doesn't matter and the fact that they got the prisoners reduced by ~98% doesn't matter and you literally writing "Putin is a saint compared to Obama" won't matter.
"Deflecting" from what, exactly? From me arguing that you're equating all US leaders? That's exactly what we're doing.
Your argument is that "all US leaders are unemotional mass murderers and to be equated morally", because Ruski propaganda at the moment wants Krasnov/Trump to not seem as the shitshow he and his government is.
I'm in the Finnish reserves and I'm laughing at GIFs of orcs getting deleted in Ukraine. I'm ready to see you at the border, buddy. Fucking bring it.
LOL we're talking about your shitty leaders and you want to drag Putin into it? Right.
But oooh you're a Fin, now it makes sense the German collaborator country still butthurt.
Are you still crying about your dead nazi granddad the Soviets killed? LOL
I really hope that whore leader of you sends you next.
And I'm Belgian you clown, I wont be at any border dying with the fanatic nazis on the eastern front like 1940's. You go ahead, good riddance.
Bye loser
From my last comment:
From there comment before that:
Soooo...
And you're a Rus? That's not how English works, back to school buddy.
Guess cyka got a bit offended at me saying I'm giggling at all the gifs of silly little orcs in Ukraine blowing up, and now you can't control your emotions, showing everyone you indeed are Russian and very easily upset.
You're too sensitive, Vanja. :(
Ha orcs, the dehumanising language nazis use.
Belgians arent called Vania scumbag, now fuck off, go train yourself to take a Khinzal, will be fun to watch.
Belgians can also differentiate between "i" and "j". ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Also... Russians never lie. ^/s
You'll be crying, cyka, when the drones will be coming for you. You've eaten the propaganda, and can't cure yourself anymore. You've drank the kool-aid, my man. I know you're a coward who know wrong from right, but doesn't have the balls to call it as it is, as he's afraid of what his family / friends thinks, but just... try to gather a little bit of balls from somewhere. The world would thank you. You won't though, you silly orc.
LOL no drones in Belgium, and none of you refugees either.
Everyone had enough of those ukro leeches here, they can fuck off back to their shrinking shithole.
If I see one of you fuckers be sure to wear your blue luftwaffe swastika so I recognise you and punch you in the throat.
Bye nazi bitch.
Sure, you're Belgian, like Davel@lemmy.ml is American. ;>
Weird how you Putin loving totalitarians supporting crimes on humanity are never from Russia. Perhaps shamed of it? Rightfully so, what a ridiculous shitshow.
All you can do is cry "Nazi". Like Zelensky is probably a nazi to you, and Putin is the rightful dear leader, right?
Do you disagree with Putin having a warrant out for him for grimes against humanity, or are you afraid of writing down what a mad, delusional narcissistic mess he is?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Russian_leaders
Oh and just as a history lesson, Finland was never Nazi. We weren't even Axis. We weren't allied, we were aligned. I know PIE languages can be challenging for you, but there is a difference. :)
not reading your shit.
Just blocking you fash, you're all boring AF
Exactly. You're so pathetically obviously Russian, it hurts.
It's hilarious how you guys don't understand how see through your "lies" are. It's like a toddler hiding behind a curtain, their feet showing, thinking they're hidden, while audibly giggling and shaking.
You can't address Putin's warcrimes.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-ukraine-icc-judges-issue-arrest-warrants-against-vladimir-vladimirovich-putin-and
Youre supporting, no, praising a delusional autocrat as a saint.
Enjoy your conscription! ;>