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[–] jagermo@feddit.org 138 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Yes. Both, not either or. Where is that shitty competition thinking coming from?

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's the way the typical American thinks

'Muricans have a habit of seeing things as zero-sum, because that's what their shitty system relies on

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 5 points 12 hours ago

A lot of it comes from conservative AstroTurf.

And, unfortunately, a lot of it comes from farmers and other people living in rural areas, who see fields of crops being turned into solar farms and think "these panels are ugly, these panels are industrial, these panels are taking up fertile farmland" and see it as just one more way the government is exploiting rural areas for the benefit of the cities.

They're wrong, of course, but rural America has been abandoned and neglected and made the dumping ground for all sorts of polluting industries for so long I can't blame them for thinking that way.

[–] notabot@piefed.social 60 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The cynic in me suspects it's an attempt to sow division within pro-solar panel groups. Get them arguing amongst themselves over where to put them, rather than uniting to push for more panels.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 10 points 16 hours ago

Yeah I really hate this post, and how often it seems to surface on lemmy. Agrivoltaics is good for energy and for the plants*!

*Some exclusions apply. Not all plants grow better with the added shade.

[–] Ibisalt@lemmy.world 49 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

In Switzerland, there was a vote on a petition requiring new houses to include solar panels. Conservatives opposed it, arguing that construction costs were already too high without such regulations. Instead, those same people want to build massive solar farms on untouched natural landscapes. To me, the reason is obvious: energy companies want to maintain control over a centralized power infrastructure. This way, they can keep charging us high electricity prices while pocketing subsidies for infrastructure projects.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 12 points 21 hours ago

Ding ding ding that is correct!

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

no, it's one thing to allow solar panels on houses, but a completely other thing to require them. i'm against the requirement as well. there's absolutely no sane reason for that besides making people uncomfortable if they don't want them. if they want them, they can already get them.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

A lot of the big building companies, in Europe, treat solar panels as a premium option and so charge a larger profit margin on them. Installing solar, while constructing the house is a LOT cheaper and easier than retrofitting them later.

The panels have gotten cheap enough that it's no longer a real cost burden, Vs the cost of the house.

[–] NinePeedles@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago

Put them everywhere. I don't care where they go. I want my son and daughter to have a planet to enjoy and raise a family in.