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[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world -4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Is that the right fallacy? What's the strawman?

[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

You are saying we are excluding Putin. That is the straw man. Putin is a capitalist oligarch that should have never led Russia and he has come into power due to the reforms led by western interests and the illegal dissolution of the USSR which has caused untold suffering, in ways like you have leeches like Putin that say Nazi stuff.

Now, what you’re “outlining” is just false, anyone who can read English can see what’s going on in this thread. Ukrainian soldiers are openly using Neo-Nazi imagery on their official uniforms. A US backed pro-NATO president is taking photos with these Nazi symbols proudly (while claiming to be a Jewish convert which is a whole other can of worms).

Yes, Putin is using Nazi rhetoric, as is Trump, many other western and European leaders, Indian and Asian leaders, etc. but this does not change the fact that you can find pictures of Zelensky posing with his own countries soldiers wearing swastikas or swastika/SS adjacent symbols like wolfsangel, black sun, totenkopf, etc.

I gotta stop feeding trolls this shit sucks too much energy out of me

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks, uh, I'm not SkyezOpen. Sorry if I interrupted your conversation.

Putin is a capitalist oligarch that should have never led Russia

you can find pictures of Zelensky posing with his own countries soldiers wearing swastikas

So you're saying that on OP's infographic we should be supporting neither Ukraine or Russia? Or should we be slightly to the right on the Russia-Ukraine axis because it's better to support a capitalist oligarch using Nazi rhetoric than not supporting anyone?

[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I’m not telling anyone who or what to support, I am only explaining the ways I’ve come to understand my own Anti-War position as a leftist and I also love pointing out the lies America has spread

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Damn right, fuck war and fuck imperialists.

By the way,

you can find pictures of Zelensky posing with his own countries soldiers wearing swastikas

Got a link? My leftist group chat doesn't believe this, and I can't find anything myself that's not obviously doctored.

[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago