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Well, I know there are some cases. But they are still bound by Swiss law, or soon they will not have a company anymore.
It’s not perfect on privacy, but I wouldn’t call it “capitulation” either.
Proton's homepage has a very different take on Swiss law.
And a very different public message about whether they would capitulate vs defending your freedom.
Well that’s actually what I said, isn’t it? Swiss law, which they have to abide by. Some of the strongest in the world, but not airtight for people who commit crimes.
The laws protect the company and the users privacy to a certain extent, but that also means Proton have the responsibility to uphold that law, or the law will be meaningless.
Getting into trouble by repeatedly purposely breaking the law is probably the easiest way for a company to get disbanded. No other companies will work with you, your server contracts will not be extended and you won’t get anything done.
And neutral is also probably a lawful type of neutral, judging from the many times they mention the law :)
It's the exact opposite. Proton says Swiss law backs you. You say that Swiss law binds them to be against you.
If Proton said what you said, they wouldn't be guilty of false advertising.
I never said that.
Being backed by the law also means working within the confinements of the law.
They’re not falsely advertising if they don’t specifically mention they are not going to break the law.
I don’t understand why this is such a difficult concept for you.
They don't say that, now do they?
And you had to remove your comment here…. Did it prove you wrong? Is that why you removed it?How disingenuous of you.
Yet you still can’t find a comment where I said anything even remotely disingenuous towards you.
Guess that was just your daddy Trump’s rhetoric again…
Why would they have to?
Do they really have to specify when they cite the law that that the law works for them exactly like it does for everyone else?
They never say they are above the law or will break the law either. Now that would be false advertising.
Proton is a privacy service. If the best thing you can say about its deception is that they aren't violating the law, you have a very low bar.
Where did I mention it is the best thing about them?
No really. Please quote me.
And if you can’t, you may have found the actual straw man argument in this discussion. Good luck!
Their advertising is already false advertising, Photonic. Stop making up strawman scenarios to defend the dishonest corporation.
What part of my argument is a straw man to you?
Is the straw man in the room with us right now?