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What would be your opinion on a lemmy/piefed instance that's run like Athen democracy? (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 hours ago by cinoreus@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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Experimental thought, but something I want to do in near future.

Basically admins and mods are selected sortitionally( randomly) from people who apply.

All admins and mods have fixed term limits.

Existence of Mod or Admin trials where a public chat(court) decides consequences for their actions, if they misbehave, could lead to

Ever since I learnt about the sortition system, I was incredibly curious how it would work irl, hence this idea.

Look, I am not going to claim this is a solution to anything, till ones actually up and running I think it's hard to say which direction it will go. But still, I want your opinion on it.

On How to encourage people to mod a community?

By making mod duty easy for them, have small term limits, and in those term limits they only have to work for 4/3 days a week. Term could be just few weeks. Also get lot more mods and give them specific time slots beyond which they are vastly not needed unless an emergency.

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[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I have also been wondering about this. But

admins and mods are selected sortitionally( randomly) from people who apply

That's your point of starvation. The application

I think, instead, everyone on the instance should be a voting member. And the decisions should be taken based on some requirement on the votes

  1. person one flags a post -> that's a vote
  2. maybe add a header that this post is under review? The voting process should probably be taking some time
  3. another person flags the same post -> that's a vote
  4. someone else says it should not be flagged -> that's a vote in opposite direction
  5. ??? <- can be changed by an instance wide vote too
  6. post/comment/user is either moderated or not, depending on votes and logic from the previous vote

In order to boost participation, randomly ask an active account to cast a vote on an ongoing discussion

I think there should be some way for "backend admin" to step in and ban something. But they should only do that for spam/csam/scam/etc. Nothing else, no matter how crazy or rude the take is
(btw, maybe the instance could also normalize asking someone to reword their take if it's rude or can be interpreted badly out of context?)

[–] halm@leminal.space 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hm, so voting would be a system similar to up- and downvoting, except only activated when somebody flags a post?

[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I was rather thinking about reports also having votes

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Application is important because applying means you're motivated enough to take the role. Also limiting to people who have an account in the instance.

And yes, you bring a good point, random people can and should participate in it.

Csam was the true bane, and while cloudflare does have some protection, I am actively looking for better ways, even thinking of using qwen or deepseek v4 for specifically that. Except with open weight models it's not just the model but who's hosting it that's also something one must take into consideration.

I believe admins would be good enough for spam, csam and scam stuff, let's see though how it works out first

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 35 minutes ago

Cloudflare actually stopped their service. If you come up with another let us know

[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm afraid that with applications it would end up with the same situation we have now. 2-3 people per instance

For sure only local accounts should have voting rights

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Well, bringing down the level of commitment required for being an admin or mod may increase the number of applicants, though if it's enough to sustain the idea is something I don't think I have an answer for.