Fuck Cars
This community exists as a sister community/copycat community to the r/fuckcars subreddit.
This community exists for the following reasons:
- to raise awareness around the dangers, inefficiencies and injustice that can come from car dependence.
- to allow a place to discuss and promote more healthy transport methods and ways of living.
You can find the Matrix chat room for this community here.
Rules
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Be nice to each other. Being aggressive or inflammatory towards other users will get you banned. Name calling or obvious trolling falls under that. Hate cars, hate the system, but not people. While some drivers definitely deserve some hate, most of them didn't choose car-centric life out of free will.
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No bigotry or hate. Racism, transphobia, misogyny, ableism, homophobia, chauvinism, fat-shaming, body-shaming, stigmatization of people experiencing homeless or substance users, etc. are not tolerated. Don't use slurs. You can laugh at someone's fragile masculinity without associating it with their body. The correlation between car-culture and body weight is not an excuse for fat-shaming.
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Stay on-topic. Submissions should be on-topic to the externalities of car culture in urban development and communities globally. Posting about alternatives to cars and car culture is fine. Don't post literal car fucking.
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No traffic violence. Do not post depictions of traffic violence. NSFW or NSFL posts are not allowed. Gawking at crashes is not allowed. Be respectful to people who are a victim of traffic violence or otherwise traumatized by it. News articles about crashes and statistics about traffic violence are allowed. Glorifying traffic violence will get you banned.
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No reposts. Before sharing, check if your post isn't a repost. Reposts that add something new are fine. Reposts that are sharing content from somewhere else are fine too.
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No misinformation. Masks and vaccines save lives during a pandemic, climate change is real and anthropogenic - and denial of these and other established facts will get you banned. False or highly speculative titles will get your post deleted.
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No harassment. Posts that (may) cause harassment, dogpiling or brigading, intentionally or not, will be removed. Please do not post screenshots containing uncensored usernames. Actual harassment, dogpiling or brigading is a bannable offence.
Please report posts and comments that violate our rules.
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No, but nice strawman. Not every interaction with a bus while in a car means someone dies. It's pretty rare. I just think buses could be ran better, more efficiently. Now, if you have the same position as the person with the longer comment, that people who drive cars need to be inconvenienced, that's a whole other statement, and they made it better, despite making a shorter post than they intended (summarising their post).
A similar strawman would be to say that for buses to exist, people have to be late for work and lose their jobs and either turn to crime or go on the streets. But as you can see, this false equivalency doesn't really make any sense. It's a pretty extreme situation. You'd say "just leave earlier" and tear it to shreds. But "just leave earlier" doesn't always work — sometimes the buses do, too. They are not very reliable or predictable. And educating bus drivers to not cut off traffic would protect the lives you're arguing to save. And letting people pass after each stop is just common courtesy. What's wrong with that? Unless, see above, you're making another point entirely.
No, those are the actual stakes being discussed. Not every time? That's not what I said, so who is building strawmen?
I'm not talking about buses, I'm talking about cars, which is where you started before you got called on it.
Literal victim blaming.
Both sides: a middle ground fallacy.
To make a completely different argument (where both parties share equitable risk and responsibility), you mean. The defining characteristic of this discussion is the asymmetric risk and responsibility. That's the whole point you're ignoring.
All I'm getting here is more victim blaming: get out of your way, they're making you late, they deserved it. If that's not your intent, that's still how it sounds.