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this post was submitted on 25 May 2026
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My point is that a consumer product is in no way "freeing" the average citizen.
Better bus service, high speed trains, and bike paths would be more freeing but carbrained consumers only think solutions come from buying things. You're just trading one capitalist for another.
Electric cars are liked by billionaires because they don't want better solutions where they have to rub elbows with commoners. This allows them to always have private transport while reducing quality transport options for regular citizens.
Musk literally used his lie of a hyperloop (another way for billionaires to have privacy at the expense of the public) to kill high speed rail in California. This is the guy who kickstarted EV sales in the US.
I'm all for massive expansion of public transport, and I agree EVs should constitute a pretty small part of the ideal transport mix.
However, the vast majority of negative sentiment around EVs you see in the press is not coming from a place of "let's do public transport instead", it's coming from the oil industry wanting people to stay hooked on their product. EVs categorically free consumers significantly from oil companies
That's what my point was really: the messaging is different because of that dynamic, a dealer wanting to keep people hooked versus a dealer wanting to hook new customers
Never washed clothes by hand I guess
Don't know why you're downvoted
I downvoted because they’re going off on a tangent. I’m annoyed when people disagree with an improved “ideally we should …”. Yes we know but let’s not let the ideal block us from ever improving
I don't think he's blocking anyone. I feel like he's just saying that there are even better solutions.