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[–] artyom@piefed.social 22 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

The problem is they can't control Chromebooks. Give them a Linux laptop with a purposeful distro that doesn't allow them to play Minecraft. Boom, problem solved.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 28 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Minecraft isn't the problem.

The problem is the 24/7 input of corporate right wing propaganda and brainwashing.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What does that have to do with computers?

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

A lot, TBH. The walled garden is everything in tech these days. When you control the platform and make it hard to leave, you control the flow of information.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What does that have to do with right wing propaganda? I'm just not seeing the connection.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

When you control the device, you control the information allowed on to the device.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 3 hours ago

Are you suggesting the right wing somehow controls all compute devices? And if so, how?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

It is, that’s what motivates my kids.

So a big problem is lack of control. If schools provide electronics they want it to be cheap, zero maintenance, and limited to academic work to the extent possible.

Kids want their control, they want their features and options, and yes they want to do other things. But not every kid can afford a laptop, not every kid can keep their laptop in working condition, and not every kid will focus on schoolwork as much as they need to

My kids are in college now, and the electric is requirement is “bring your laptop”

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you’re saying but this sounds like an entitlement issue. Kids don’t need to be able to do more than schoolwork on school provided computers.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Kids want to do more than schoolwork. Maybe that’s entitlement, but the point is they are going to bitch and moan because they can’t

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

My grandma used to say “put your wants in one hand and take a shit in the other and see which one fills up faster.”

The point is these are school computers, they shouldn’t be treated any differently than a computer lab computer just because they’re at your house.

[–] ChaosMonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Claude, please find a linux 0-day to root my school laptop so that I can play Minecraft.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

If a fifth grader uses copy.fail to gain root access on their Chromebook I say we let them have some extra Minecraft time.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 13 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

That's fine, some kids will do that, and I hope they do. But they will be a minority.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Once they do they'll share it with friends and it will make its way around.

It's literally what I did in school

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

And you probably learned a lot doing it. I know I did. Dunno if you're old enough to remember Ninja Proxy but it's what we used to bypass the firewall and I learned a lot about networking after that.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago

It's a valuable part of the education....

[–] shweddy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Not as good as searching the internet for the answer but it shows promise

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

In my son’s fifth grade class last year, it was fucking Cookie Clicker. 🙄

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Why would the fuck Cookie Clicker? They hot?

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

The problem is there is no compelling data that these devices are superior for learning. They are distractions and expense with no proven benefit.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There's some benefit... my daughter was assigned a Window 11 Lenovo the last two tears and now hates Microsoft AND Windows.

Her personal laptop runs linux.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You could have created a temporary dual boot to teach her that in a weekend. Parents are so lazy these days.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago

Nah, her kind of deep seated hatred comes from required usage over time, not from a weekend. Short term exposure just doesn't do it.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter if they're superior or not, they need to learn to use them, because every job is going to expect them to be able to.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I think it would take a pretty big effort to keep kids from learning how to use basic functions on tablets or laptops. They are inundated with these in and out of school. They don't need to use them in school to be comfortabke with them on the job market.

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

And yet a lot of kids are entering the workforce today not knowing how to use a computer mouse or what a web browser is.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Probably best to focus on child labor laws then.

For young adults entering the workforce computer literacy is dropping DESPITE a clear increase in school computer use. This is not an argument for kids being shackeld to tablets for their school work. Basic computer science courses, typing courses and computer lab exposure are sufficient.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Or a file system.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Most kids already don't know

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

The devices for my kids saved me a crapload on buying textbooks.

They consider it a benefit that now they can hand in their assignment just before midnight Friday night the week it’s due