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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/48176362

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/48176361

I like community builders and games that I can keep a world for years and grow, watch it evolve. I enjoy Rimworld. ARK evolved series is good.

Bonus if it's multiplayer capable LAN and not online.

Oxygen not included is nice but mentally taxing sometimes. I prefer laid back chill games with economy and farming. 2d or 3d doesn't matter. I don't mind trying indie games. Survival based games are nice. I'm not super pick and choose.

Give me your greatest joy in game form. I've heard Stardew Valley is good. I tried it, reminds me of a gameboy game. I could not get into the game. My character kept falling asleep like 14 times in a day.

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[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Starbound and Terraria come to mind. Also Planet Centauri and maybe Stardew Valley.

Also Minecraft if a DRM-free version other than the Pi Edition (which is abandoned) ever comes.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

Luanti is basically open-source minecraft

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Since when did Minecraft have DRM? The only real DRM on it is logging in with a microsoft account that owns the game. You don't even need to use the official launcher.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

logging in with a microsoft account

Well that is a big no.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's weird. Why would I do that?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because you don't want to use Microsoft's ecosystem? It'll just be the same as any other account

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If I don't want to use them, I am not making an account. I already have a billion accounts I don't need yet another, and certainly not a Microsoft one.

But go back to the original question OP posed: two distinct things, Offline and Long Term.

I don't trust Microsoft, Minecraft is dead to me and I cannot count on them long-term.

Requiring an account is not offline.

So Minecraft does not meet op's requirements.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Afaik, the Java version is only accessible with an account, 3rd party launchers potentially being considered cracking means. Bedrock version is tied to its platforms' DRMs, like Win10's Microsoft Store validation and a hard-to-access folder which changing permissions is a nightmare, and Google Play Services' validation on Android.

As for console versions, major consoles have DRM to their games by default, with a case like PS Vita games even requiring the user to create a dummy validation file by launching the game once to be able to use backups (also iirc all Vita cartridges have a self-explanatory gro0:/DRM/ folder). And as for cartridge overall, be them Nintendo's, Sony's, etc., being hard to access their contents due to using non-standard could be considered DRM, and some cases formally considering as in the DMCA.

So sounds to me like it has DRM in most versions, yeah.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

3rd party launchers potentially being considered cracking means.

No, they directly integrate with the authentication servers and download the files straight from mojang. You even get an official prompt in a browser login window to connect your account to the third party launcher.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Login to access the contents afaik is still DRM, even if it takes more steps.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If it is DRM, it's hardly the DRM that people complain about. It's pretty ethical DRM. If this was a strictly offline computer, you can even install Minecraft on a USB drive and move the installation over.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd need to check how long the validation lasts, since it may be well be like emulated PS1 games from the PSN ("PSOne Classics") and Steam's offline mode, both that take a few years to reset, but neither permanent.

But about people complaining, they usually do so only for problems that are obvious to them. And the obvious is usually immediate.

And if it takes a few months/years to expire, I'd say it is not ethical, but pretty vile, as then people will not notice the problem at first, and when they do, they may no longer access their contents.

And considering people that forgot to upgrade their original Mojang accounts, or didn't have access to the needed tools while the change to Microsoft accounts happened, there is a precedent for Minecraft validation methods to not become available any longer.

Also, from my experience with Windows Vista, where even though I have an actually original key for it, if I try to install Vista nowadays and try to connect it to the internet, it will lock the whole system from my access on the next start-up, I'd imagine because it can't reach the validation servers. So I've seen first hand how Microsoft's preservation goes over several years. And since Minecraft may also be used online due to multiplayer, checks may still happen, and being nowadays also a Microsoft product, it may suffer from the same vices of origin.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago

I'd need to check how long the validation lasts, since it may be well be like emulated PS1 games from the PSN ("PSOne Classics") and Steam's offline mode, both that take a few years to reset, but neither permanent.

It would depend on the launcher. Considering that cracked launchers do exist which just bypass this step entirely, I'm sure there are plenty which only really check once just to be on the legal side of the law. Third party launchers are a thing - there is nothing stopping the application from just running the game. I don't think it would even be possible to permit third party launchers and somehow have the game break itself after a set period of time without internet connection, except for maybe an EULA which they would just have to be trusted to follow. And the EULA doesn't mention third party launchers.

Cracking also isn't really illegal in a lot of jurisdictions if you already own a licence for the game. But you wouldn't even need to crack it for Minecraft anyway.