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[โ€“] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I understand that the American government is full of lies and paints those it has labeled "enemy" in a web of falsehoods, but your calling a dynasty of inherited emperors "outsized influence" is worse than if I hand waved Elon musk as "outsized influence". And the violent suppression of viewpoints in China is well verified.

America is a capitalist hellscape. I don't disagree. You can't "whatabout" it to escape China and DPRK doing some heinous shit. No matter what horrible shit America does it doesn't change the truth of what I said.

You can pretend I support it in some way and am an easy to attack white person who just toes the party line because I benefit from the system. But none of that is true.

[โ€“] iByteABit@lemmy.ml 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

And the violent suppression of viewpoints in China is well verified.

Doubles down on being a chauvinist idiot lecturing a Chinese person about reality in China, nice

[โ€“] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

The only arguments I've ever heard in response to the free speech problem, and continue to hear from you, is "bbbbut America worse" or "you are a dumb American". I never said "but Chinese are stupid" or "fucking tankie loyalist", but if I did, that'd tell you a lot about my viewpoints. Just like it does yours when you reduce me to some kind of American cheerleader, even against my direct statements to the contrary.