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[–] shweddy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Patriarchy

e: Some dudes apparently can't take accountability and they gotta downvote me to prove their point

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] vrek@programming.dev 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Honestly I disagree. I rarely see men judge a woman for looks. It's typically women judging other women for looks. I've never seen a man look down on a woman for not having painted nails for example but have seen woman comment on another woman for her nails being chipped.

There was an old joke like "if you ever are about to have sex with a man and he comments about how your panties and bra don't match... RUN! What is wrong with that person? No man cares, hell you're about to remove them anyways."

Edit: men are dangerous for many reasons. Typically the opposite problem, they see a woman as too beautiful to refuse the desire to have sex with them. They rarely have the feeling of" well she would be pretty but seriously, that shirt with those heels?".

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Idk if you're a man or a woman, but that's a wild take. I've definitely heard men nitpick a woman's appearance, including chipped nail polish, but above all about weight, which is a big part of the original post.

In my experience, women are more likely to talk trash about things easily changed: judging someone for clothes that don't fit well or makeup that's poorly applied, whereas men will trash women for body type, weight gain, and aging.

And if you think a man is dangerous to a beautiful woman who rejects them, you don't want to meet a man who is mad a woman "below" him has rejected him. That can be violent.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just want you to know that I'm downvoting you because the way you express your opinion is facile and simplistic, and honestly helps further the division you purport to critique. Not because I necessarily disagree with the general sentiment you believe you're trying to convey.

One word answers to problems are easy, but they rarely accurate enough to actually help solve the issue and generally are used to push people to extreme opinions. It's much less effort to just spout a catchphrase to push people towards your own personal goal rather than get into an actually beneficial discussion about the ins and outs of how life actually works and how to solve real world problems.

[–] shweddy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Thats fair. You're way better at getting a point across than I am

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Women put pressure on other women too. Girls can be bullies in school.

I'm not downvoting you, but I am disputing the assertion that only men uphold unfair standards.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

patriarchy ultimately benefits men*, but all people can wield it for at least crumbs of power

when you’re a woman who conforms to patriarchal standards, stepping on the women who don’t helps you look better in the eyes of men*, and so it gives you more power relative to the women you stepped on

* i am talking about men as a social class here, not men as individual people. before someone not-all-men’s me.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah men love the catty bitch stereotype of women, the one who tears down other women over shallow nonsense.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Men tear down women just for the love of the game apparently.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Internalized misogyny is a thing.