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Whenever I talk to any Democrat supporters, they by-default cheer their Presidents and then I've to remind them of their leader's illegal wars and war crimes. They condemn those acts and they go back to their cheerleading role - Why do they keep forgetting atrocities committed by their leaders? Why do they accept war criminals as their leader?

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[โ€“] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"We can't focus on the nazi genocide we all supported, we need to look forward!"

[โ€“] daannii@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Nazi genocide is a present issue. It's happening right now.

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[โ€“] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You wouldn't think so from how blue maga talk about it, how they rewrite history and reality to deny their culpability.

[โ€“] daannii@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

I'm so confused. I said I'm tired of what-aboutism.

We have to focus on what's happening now.

I didn't say we deny the things that caused the present situation.

I said I'm tired of hearing every time there is a discussion about Trump's bad decisions and actions that are making things really bad, someone chimes in with what about Biden or Obama. Of which neither are currently the president nor can run for president again.

I don't deny their part in the current state.

I'm saying that I don't have the time or energy to engage with people constantly using Obama and Bidens actions as an excuse for why we can't criticize trump.

Of course things today are a product of many people and institutions failing.

I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about how to fix those problems.

I'm saying I'm tired of What-aboutism as it's not productive and is purely intended as a distraction and division.

I don't know how much clearer I can make this.

Surely you don't think it's important to discuss Obamas failings every time trump does something stupid to somehow excuse Trump's actions or downplay them. ?

[โ€“] Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Yes it's happening in Gaza. Israelis are the modern day Nazis. Both the Dems and Republicans have shown that they unconditionally support Israel's holocaust in Palestine. This isn't really up for debate.

Americans need to sort out their shit and bring in a third party that actually represents them